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Title: Which shield is better?
Post by: samuelwlai on December 30, 2007, 04:24:24 pm

I need to know which shield would be better:

Stone Buckler
        or
Sacred Mission

For shield chain it said the heavier the shield the stronger shield chain.
On RatemyServer it says Stone Buckler is 150 weight but Sacred Mission is 160 weight.
Most people want Stone Buckler though, so I want your opinion and why which is better.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Kentaro555 on December 30, 2007, 07:39:11 pm

i think refine weight also helps the damage
but to me, i think sacred mission is better
lots of other status up

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Kyo on December 30, 2007, 07:45:40 pm

Stone Buckler because its slotted.  :)

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: samuelwlai on December 30, 2007, 08:25:14 pm

hmm thx, anyone else help me?

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Van~Candy on December 30, 2007, 08:32:11 pm

+10 Shield[0]

It'd do more damage than a +4 Sacred mission or +4 stone buckler. ; )

But out of those two, stone buckler because it has a slot.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Chioki on December 30, 2007, 10:11:02 pm

Buckler because it it slotted.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Souless_koji on December 30, 2007, 10:46:56 pm

Quote from: Van~Candy on December 30, 2007, 08:32:11 pm

+10 Shield[0]

It'd do more damage than a +4 Sacred mission or +4 stone buckler. ; )

But out of those two, stone buckler because it has a slot.

Sheild chain damage does not improve after +6 on any refined sheild.

Sacred Mission, on this server at lest is not heavier than the stone bukler your info was probebly from roempire or rate myserver, I saw a scared mission selling some months ago and it was alot lighter than the buckler.


If you want good sheild chain/bomerange/push damage then use a stone buckler, I also recomend a HHHP weapon or TTHP weapon for max damage cause sheild chain if effected by +% cards (but not by + attack cards) also str helps it to.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: ChaosBlades on December 30, 2007, 11:02:50 pm

stone buck definitely because of the slot and its heavier on our server

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Man Of Emperium on December 31, 2007, 02:25:52 am

Quote from: Souless_koji on December 30, 2007, 10:46:56 pm

Sheild chain damage does not improve after +6 on any refined sheild.

Are you sure about this? I tested Thresher's +10 Aegis and it did 20% more damage on high Def targets than my +4 and 10% more damage on low Def targets. It's hard to believe that the difference comes from only 2 refines (20 stones).

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Wonderful Fellow Angel on December 31, 2007, 06:02:28 am

Quote from: Souless_koji on December 30, 2007, 10:46:56 pm

Quote from: Van~Candy on December 30, 2007, 08:32:11 pm

+10 Shield[0]

It'd do more damage than a +4 Sacred mission or +4 stone buckler. ; )

But out of those two, stone buckler because it has a slot.

Sheild chain damage does not improve after +6 on any refined sheild.

That was before, when Aegis still had 1k weight, and it only applied to Aegis(Shield Chain hit a damage maximum with a +5 Aegis Shield). With the weight reduced now, the damage goes up exponentially with every upgrade.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: samuelwlai on December 31, 2007, 12:15:20 pm

Can you guys tell me the weight for stone buckler on this server?

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: StriferX on December 31, 2007, 12:54:32 pm

Stone Buckler[1] is better. You can also slot in a Thara/Toad.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: xionex on December 31, 2007, 01:07:44 pm

Stone Buckler[1] for sure
And the weight is 150 ;)

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Souless_koji on December 31, 2007, 01:46:51 pm

Quote from: Black Angel on December 31, 2007, 06:02:28 am

Quote from: Souless_koji on December 30, 2007, 10:46:56 pm

Quote from: Van~Candy on December 30, 2007, 08:32:11 pm

+10 Shield[0]

It'd do more damage than a +4 Sacred mission or +4 stone buckler. ; )

But out of those two, stone buckler because it has a slot.

Sheild chain damage does not improve after +6 on any refined sheild.

That was before, when Aegis still had 1k weight, and it only applied to Aegis(Shield Chain hit a damage maximum with a +5 Aegis Shield). With the weight reduced now, the damage goes up exponentially with every upgrade.

I dont realy think thats true, I was bord awile back and desided to make a SC pally, I saw a +6 stone bukler for sale quite cheap but I remebered the debate on anima about the refined damage, so I just made a wole bunch of over upped shield[0]'s if I remeber correctly I made from +4 to +9 and used a 99 pally with 99 dex and 99 str as the control and damaged porings with no gear. The results where minimal increases from +4 - +6 and not seeing any differance after +6 - +9, well after all that I desided not to buy the +6 stone bukler and got a +6 termaran carded shield[1] just for fun.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Man Of Emperium on December 31, 2007, 02:18:37 pm

I'll go and test this today. God forbid this makes me try to make a +6 Aegis...

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Aozora on December 31, 2007, 07:49:16 pm

Quote from: samuelwlai on December 30, 2007, 04:24:24 pm

I need to know which shield would be better:

Stone Buckler
        or
Sacred Mission

For shield chain it said the heavier the shield the stronger shield chain.
On RatemyServer it says Stone Buckler is 150 weight but Sacred Mission is 160 weight.
Most people want Stone Buckler though, so I want your opinion and why which is better.

For stronger shield chain: -heaviest shield you can find since the weight afects the damage way more then the upgrade
For better shield altogether: Sone buckler since it has a slot. For shields slotted ones are ALWAYS better.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Man Of Emperium on December 31, 2007, 08:23:40 pm

Quote from: Souless_koji on December 31, 2007, 01:46:51 pm

I dont realy think thats true, I was bord awile back and desided to make a SC pally, I saw a +6 stone bukler for sale quite cheap but I remebered the debate on anima about the refined damage, so I just made a wole bunch of over upped shield[0]'s if I remeber correctly I made from +4 to +9 and used a 99 pally with 99 dex and 99 str as the control and damaged porings with no gear. The results where minimal increases from +4 - +6 and not seeing any differance after +6 - +9, well after all that I desided not to buy the +6 stone bukler and got a +6 termaran carded shield[1] just for fun.

Just tested +4, +6 and +8 Guards. The Shield Chain damage range increased every time with upgrade, regardless of being past +6 upgrade or not. The numbers on GR, 70+16 Defense and 20% ranged reduction were:

+4: 36
+6: 39-43
+8: 40-50

This was after numerous trials of each when I ran 99 total Strength, while being naked otherwise.

Title: Re: Which shield is better?
Post by: Souless_koji on January 01, 2008, 04:08:09 am

Quote from: Man Of Emperium on December 31, 2007, 08:23:40 pm

Quote from: Souless_koji on December 31, 2007, 01:46:51 pm

I dont realy think thats true, I was bord awile back and desided to make a SC pally, I saw a +6 stone bukler for sale quite cheap but I remebered the debate on anima about the refined damage, so I just made a wole bunch of over upped shield[0]'s if I remeber correctly I made from +4 to +9 and used a 99 pally with 99 dex and 99 str as the control and damaged porings with no gear. The results where minimal increases from +4 - +6 and not seeing any differance after +6 - +9, well after all that I desided not to buy the +6 stone bukler and got a +6 termaran carded shield[1] just for fun.

Just tested +4, +6 and +8 Guards. The Shield Chain damage range increased every time with upgrade, regardless of being past +6 upgrade or not. The numbers on GR, 70+16 Defense and 20% ranged reduction were:

+4: 36
+6: 39-43
+8: 40-50

This was after numerous trials of each when I ran 99 total Strength, while being naked otherwise.

Yea I just tested on ratemyserver test server and got about about the same increases, lol lethal damage