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Title: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: xTodesengelx on August 12, 2009, 03:12:51 pm

So...once I learn how to Thor without dying a lot and learn how to counter most of the monsters' attacks, I wanted to try and see which gear would be the best for this type of thing.

I plan to eventually give leeches to people once I get good enough at it.

My gears are...

+4 DDx Artemis
Kaho
DL Sleipnir
2 Crit Ring
+7 Immune Muffler
Gryphon EWE
+4 Tights of Ifrit (Pasana)

Someone said to swap the +7 Immune for a Jakk carded garment.
What about defending against guardians? They one shot me sometimes.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: SwiftStrike on August 12, 2009, 03:37:21 pm

jakk if you don't plan to get hit other than their magic atks(trapping, critlock)

just run/fw away from guardians; luckily theres not that many of em

only gear switch i see (after u get a TG card/garment?) is using kobold/SR death loops(so you can survive more/spam less meats)
gryph valk is meh. kaho is good enough

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: xTodesengelx on August 12, 2009, 03:52:33 pm

Quote from: SwiftStrike on August 12, 2009, 03:37:21 pm

jakk if you don't plan to get hit other than their magic atks(trapping, critlock)

just run/fw away from guardians; luckily theres not that many of em

only gear switch i see (after u get a TG card/garment?) is using kobold/SR death loops(so you can survive more/spam less meats)
gryph valk is meh. kaho is good enough

SR death loops would help a lot. Hmm.

How much are those?

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: Aryia on August 12, 2009, 03:55:26 pm

Question - would a garm fire armor be better than a regular fire armor in Thors? I tried both out and to be honest, didn't notice a difference.. But I wonder if there is?

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: DJ Soul on August 12, 2009, 04:08:31 pm

learn how to trap and you shouldn't get hit at all or not to much.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: SwiftStrike on August 12, 2009, 04:11:43 pm

Quote from: xTodesengelx on August 12, 2009, 03:52:33 pm

SR death loops would help a lot. Hmm.

How much are those?

18ads to make 9 for loop, 9 for SR. (I'm selling one for 17m too--I still use it on star glad but iI got no use for crits on it ;))


why wouldn't garm be better lol? ~10def more...+/- refines
is it worth the cost, idk

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: redhairweasel on August 12, 2009, 04:12:35 pm

Quote from: Aryia on August 12, 2009, 03:55:26 pm

Question - would a garm fire armor be better than a regular fire armor in Thors? I tried both out and to be honest, didn't notice a difference.. But I wonder if there is?

+6 glit pasana is like 11 true defense...quite cheap and it's still easy to overup to +6
+4 fire garm is like 17 true defense...only 6 def difference but it's expensive
u wont see much different on normal attack...probably effective for that firebreath thingy

so yeah...just like on/off pcb but sliiightly better

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: DJ Soul on August 12, 2009, 06:15:56 pm

Defense don't really matter, or atleast to me, because spiral pierces defense, they mostly use magic attacks, and that one Fire Attribute attack does only 4k to me.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: rolover on August 14, 2009, 05:10:28 pm

if u can crit lock then all u need is a gtb swap
and if u fwing in time the dmg from spear boomerang dont register from guardians

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: MinTako on August 14, 2009, 05:29:30 pm

Ya'll are talking about LK now?  ???

Anyways, I thors some too altho with a bit diff gears. But what i find that saves me most often is if somethign spawns like right next to me or something gets to close is just arrowcharge then quickly smack down a trap. Gear wise i'd actually say grpyh valk helps a lot but maybe thats just me cause i prefer the crits over the dmg you gain from kaho's dex.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: rolover on August 14, 2009, 05:42:19 pm

u can get good enuf crit jus statting luk tho o.o
but thats only if u thors w/ snipers the way i do xD

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: Aozora on August 14, 2009, 06:28:55 pm

Quote from: redhairweasel on August 12, 2009, 04:12:35 pm

Quote from: Aryia on August 12, 2009, 03:55:26 pm

Question - would a garm fire armor be better than a regular fire armor in Thors? I tried both out and to be honest, didn't notice a difference.. But I wonder if there is?

+6 glit pasana is like 11 true defense...quite cheap and it's still easy to overup to +6
+4 fire garm is like 17 true defense...only 6 def difference but it's expensive
u wont see much different on normal attack...probably effective for that firebreath thingy

so yeah...just like on/off pcb but sliiightly better

Well the difference in Thor will pretty much only be for Fire breath, which is already reduced a lot by Jakk+Fire armor.
Most attacks you'll be facing are ranged fire magic, making DEF a lot less useful. So carding Garm for thors isn't really that smart =/

As for OP's post, well it kinda depends on how you want to level.
There are mainly two different ways, you either DPS or you spam DS. The main advantage of a DPS build is the CRIT boost, however if you're killing kasas with a CRIT build you're an idiot. Kasas have a shitty DEF, you're better of putting more points to DEX to boost your damage than wasting them on LUK. DS spammage is generally the most effective way to go in thors 1. Max out DEX, make sure you have 190 ASPD along with craptons of GJ, then just spam DS on them as fast as you humanly can. Kasas drop pretty damn fast. I can't rememebr exact numbers but I'm guessing you can do anywhere between 6-8k per DS against a kasa.

If you're going with a DS build I suggest you dumb your crit rings for celebs/sting gloves and change that Gryph into a DI for more survivability.

The DPS builds usually focus more on CRIT, which as I said, is pretty dumb against kasas with their low DEF. Crits however works great against salamanders which give slightly better EXP than kasas but are also a bit harder to kill. The best way would be to critlock them which works with good CRIT and high ASPD. For this sort of leveling your gears are fine.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: DJ Soul on August 14, 2009, 07:36:09 pm

Well in Thor with a DDT arty a regular hit does 1k damage and a crit does 2k damage with DPS, so crit build is freaky good.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: rolover on August 14, 2009, 07:45:20 pm

was 2.4k crit for me :)

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: SwiftStrike on August 14, 2009, 09:39:49 pm

DS takes grape juice and much more clicks than just click and lock away :D
especially with an arty

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: Aozora on August 15, 2009, 06:04:09 am

Quote from: SwiftStrike on August 14, 2009, 09:39:49 pm

DS takes grape juice and much more clicks than just click and lock away :D
especially with an arty

Sure you can click away andd in the process you waste tons of arrows and take long on killing something. Sure it works, DS build is just immensly faster. You may deal 2.4k per crit while a DS may deal 8k. DPS builds works, but DS build is just immensely faster if you have the patience to click

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: DJ Soul on August 15, 2009, 10:53:20 am

well with the 2.4k Crits, you kill kasa in like 2 or 3 seconds, its not slow at all. I'm pretty sure you haven't tried killing Kasa on this server with Arty.

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: Aozora on August 15, 2009, 10:56:48 am

Quote from: DJ Soul on August 15, 2009, 10:53:20 am

well with the 2.4k Crits, you kill kasa in like 2 or 3 seconds, its not slow at all. I'm pretty sure you haven't tried killing Kasa on this server with Arty.

I have, it's not slow, but you waste arrows and DS is faster :>

Title: Re: Help with a Sniper at Thor
Post by: rolover on August 15, 2009, 11:18:04 am

u do use a LOT more healing items tho
but then again arrows are slightly harder to find
but if u dont ever use gtb like i do, then u might as well water endow instead of slaving to find water arrows
steel arrows have more atk any how, and easy to find