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Title: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: Flav0rFlav on June 02, 2009, 05:21:43 pm

so whats it worth?

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 03:01:33 am

13 - 14 mio

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: redhairweasel on June 03, 2009, 03:05:09 am

Quote from: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 03:01:33 am

13 - 14 mio

Tirfing Card = 9m/9 ads with using Item Shop
+7 Guard = 1~2m

but there's a lot of idiot and newb in this game so some people manage to sell at that price

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: bLitzkr!eg on June 03, 2009, 03:07:42 am

9-10M :police:

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 03:10:36 am

i know it isn't worth 13m but that's the current price...looked for a week in the PriceCheck and in the shops...never seen a cheaper one...

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: shadowfaux on June 03, 2009, 03:31:23 am

It's because so many people have bought it for 13ish mil that that's what becomes the new standard price for it. If people stop buying over priced items, then the market stays steady.

If there's a supply, and no-demand for it, then prices will eventually fall until people start buying that supply. Then economy reaches near equilibrium, and that's when prices start fluctuating again. Example for this would be the +7 Guard[Tirfing] for 13 mil. Let's say we have 15 people trying to sell these for 13-14 mil each. Not many people would want to buy this item for that price. Thus none get sold. Eventually the vendors realize that their item is not going to get sold for that price, and that's when they start lowering the prices. Say now we have 10 vendors selling for 13-14 mil, and now 5 vendors are selling for say 11-12. People will begin to see that the prices are dropping, but yet the price is still not at the range that most people would buy it for. Let's have 2 people buy the 11-12 mil +7 Guard[Tirfing]. We now have 10 for 13-14 mil, and 3 for 11-12. The demand for all these items has all but disappeared due to an unappealing price. More people start dropping their prices, 5 more drop from 13-14, to 11-12, and two 11-12 drop to 10 mil. Now the people wanting to buy these items see 10 mil (a fair price in their eyes) and those two are sold quickly. Now people might have seen these two 10 mil Guards on PC Bot (just a theory) and when they tried getting them, they were already gone. Now they advertise they are buying this item for 10 mil. Eventually word spreads and more of these items prices are dropped to be able to sell. This goes on and on until eventually Our supply = the demand. This is what we call equilibrium. Eventually, though, we break our equilibrium because the supply has dropped, and there is still a demand for these items. This is when prices will start to rise because the people who want the item, now can't get it. They start advertising that they want to buy it for 11 mil..... no one is selling. Someone else says they want it for 12..... no sale. Eventually, a desperate sap advertises that they are buying it for 13 mil, they get the sale. Other people who may need money start selling said item for 13 mil again.... desperate people start buying for that price.....And our cycle continues. It's Economics.... and sadly it won't change anytime soon.

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 03:35:31 am

basic market theories^^

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: shadowfaux on June 03, 2009, 03:45:34 am

Lol I get bored easily and when I do and answer I question, I tend to go overboard in describing things. I guess it's so further questions don't get answered later on in the topic XD

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: bLitzkr!eg on June 03, 2009, 03:47:24 am

Quote from: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 03:10:36 am

i know it isn't worth 13m but that's the current price...looked for a week in the PriceCheck and in the shops...never seen a cheaper one...

if i can get ads for 950-1m, might as well buy it from item shop.
its not like its so difficult to ge ads.

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 04:04:46 am

i've got a +7buckler [tirfing] already :-P

it's not hard to get ads as long as you find people you can trust or have time to get it yourself through voting, but it's often not easy to get a +7 thing if you don't have a BS/WS yourself cause they are mostly sold with a card already in it...

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: bLitzkr!eg on June 03, 2009, 04:43:45 am

Quote from: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 04:04:46 am

i've got a +7buckler [tirfing] already :-P

it's not hard to get ads as long as you find people you can trust or have time to get it yourself through voting, but it's often not easy to get a +7 thing if you don't have a BS/WS yourself cause they are mostly sold with a card already in it...

you dont need a BS/WS to have a better success rate on upgrading armors/shields/garments.
a level 10 gearless novice  will have the same success rate as a level 99 job 70 WS with all the dex/luk gears.

if thats what you're getting at....

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 10:24:25 am

I thought BS/WS could up shields and armor, too...was i wrong?

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: shadowfaux on June 03, 2009, 10:36:46 am

Yeah, WS can only upgrade weapons

Title: Re: PC> +7 Tirfing Gaurd
Post by: KaitoKid on June 03, 2009, 11:30:10 am

oh ok...my mistake...though not easy to get xD