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Title: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 04:59:34 am

I feel like a nub asking this but I was wonder if they truly did exist on this server.

And by Cast Reduction, I'm not talking about IC/Dex Gears here guys.

I know that with 2x Berz Clips you can get 60-65% cast reduction.
With a Wing Staff you get 5% cast reduction.
With DI + DL, I think but am not sure, you get 20% cast reduction.

Overall, with all of this you get around 85-90% cast Reduction.

Are there any other cast reduction gears on the server and does 100% Cast Reduction constitute as IC?

- I've played on a server where 100% cast reduction equals what is paramount to 147-149 out of 150 Dex here. It ticked me off like no other and idk how it was possible. >_<

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Whoisnoob? on December 16, 2007, 05:01:20 am

I think there's a head gear or garment that gives 10% reduce cast time

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 05:03:44 am

Does including to DI cards add to the cast reduction to the ratio of one DL?

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 05:08:20 am

Quote from: Whoisnoob? on December 16, 2007, 05:01:20 am

I think there's a head gear or garment that gives 10% reduce cast time

I hope it's slotted since DI is a headgear card.

Quote from: !ns4n3 on December 16, 2007, 05:03:44 am

Does including to DI cards add to the cast reduction to the ratio of one DL?

As far as I know DL adds to the cast rate but when paired with DI, it reduces the cast rate by 20%

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: StriferX on December 16, 2007, 05:14:28 am

Aegis.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Mirandu on December 16, 2007, 05:15:15 am

Quote from: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 05:08:20 am

Quote from: Whoisnoob? on December 16, 2007, 05:01:20 am

I think there's a head gear or garment that gives 10% reduce cast time

I hope it's slotted since DI is a headgear card.

Magic Eyes... (it's the sprite of your boyfriend Axle's Kaho). -10% Cast Time, +20% MP Consumption. No Slot.
But if you put DI into a Mid-Headgear, there should be no problem with that, right?

Robe of Cast, 5% Cast Time Reduction (as far as I know), slot-able.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 05:21:06 am

You're right! Lemme do the math....

DL shoes + DI Blinker = 20%
Robe of Cast = 5%
2x Berz = 60-65%
Wing Staff = 5%
Magic Eyes = 10%
___________________

100%

Hmm...now I really want to experiment with this....I really hope that 100% Cast Reduction = IC, unlike that other crummy server's "100% Cast Reduction" That really ticked me off. -_-

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Zeta on December 16, 2007, 05:31:18 am

Whoops, I meant 2 DI. x:

Are you doing this for any class with cast?
Or just finding another alternate route for IC?

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Mirandu on December 16, 2007, 05:35:42 am

Quote from: !ns4n3 on December 16, 2007, 05:31:18 am

Whoops, I meant 2 DI. x:

Are you doing this for any class with cast?
Or just finding another alternate route for IC?

Well, this combo only works for the Mage Class.. (or Soul Linker too?)

But no Priests etc.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 05:40:58 am

I'm doing this for my main. I'm sick and tired of having none or close to no defense or vit. I know that will probably change when I get my SQI but I don't think I'll be getting that anytime soon. xD

W/ 100% Cast Reduction I could easily stat my wiz for Full Int and Full Str or Vit, depending on my opponent. xD

I can see why there wouldn't be 100% CR here though. It would be awesomely broken. - Awesome spells + Awesome Def/Str = Definitely way too broken. W/out GTB its hell killing wizards unless you can crit/DSlock them. Even with Gtb they're still a hassle (Magic Crasher/Gravi Field).

But hey, if I can get away with Full Int AND Full Vit/Str I'd do it in a heartbeat!

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Whoisnoob? on December 16, 2007, 07:19:53 am

Why priest can't?

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Maryline` on December 16, 2007, 07:42:55 am

Quote from: Whoisnoob? on December 16, 2007, 07:19:53 am

Why priest can't?

priest cant use robe of cast

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Karanja on December 16, 2007, 07:43:20 am

Because priest need Missy.

Jup that too XD

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Gnemo on December 16, 2007, 08:05:41 am

Two Beelzebubs would give you 66% cast reduction on this server.

The Robe of Cast only gives 3% cast reduction according to ROEmpire.com.

I was wondering that if the DI's effect stack, wouldn't it be possible to put another Dark Illusion card into a slotted headgear? (Valkyrie Helm, if not... something inexpensive like a Gemmed Sallet)...

But I agree with you Firemousey, not having to spec 90+ dexterity into a build just to achieve instant-cast is definitely tempting.

I have heard on the grapevine that there is some way scholars can achieve 100% CR.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: bensei on December 16, 2007, 08:13:22 am

DI cards dont stack.

berze is 30% per card

robe of cast is 3%

Only class that can get IC that way are pallys/saders.

Since robe of cast does just add a 3% reduction the max red you could get is 98%

Berze 60% (30% ea)
Robe of cast= 3%
DI = 20%
wing staff  = 5%
Magic eyes 10%
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Total = 98%


However since aegis adds a 18% cast time reduction, you could get ic as pally or sader that way.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Lu Bu on December 16, 2007, 08:50:11 am

uhh, thats not how cast reduction works, it works by diminished returns doesn't it?

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: ~Axle~ on December 16, 2007, 09:32:22 am

Regardless, You can't get it here unless you're a Paladin with Aegis.
I saw a Wizard in forest with the above mentioned gear (Babe, remember I gave you my regular Hat of Eyes. You should still have it)
He's Cast was fairly quick, But not IC. /??

At least without a Bard anyways.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Mirandu on December 16, 2007, 09:44:08 am

Oops.. I'm sorry, got it wrong with the Robe of Cast  :-[

Quote from: Lu Bu on December 16, 2007, 08:50:11 am

uhh, thats not how cast reduction works, it works by diminished returns doesn't it?

Uhm.. % CRs should add up, while DEX and %CR multiplies.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Sapphirion on December 16, 2007, 09:51:15 am

cast redution cards are for saders and palys if u are a priest stick with dex gears

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Mirandu on December 16, 2007, 09:57:43 am

Quote from: Sapphirion on December 16, 2007, 09:51:15 am

cast redution cards are for saders and palys if u are a priest stick with dex gears

Cast Reduction is for everyone with Cast time - (H.) Mages, (H.) Priests, (H.) Wizards, Sages/Scholars, ...

It's not all about IC :P
If you can't afford Kahos, Cast Time Reduction is VERY useful.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Sapphirion on December 16, 2007, 10:10:47 am

Quote from: Mirandu on December 16, 2007, 09:57:43 am

Quote from: Sapphirion on December 16, 2007, 09:51:15 am

cast redution cards are for saders and palys if u are a priest stick with dex gears

Cast Reduction is for everyone with Cast time - (H.) Mages, (H.) Priests, (H.) Wizards, Sages/Scholars, ...

It's not all about IC :P
If you can't afford Kahos, Cast Time Reduction is VERY useful.

i was comparing them with dex gears and kahos

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: rilla. on December 16, 2007, 01:12:33 pm

Quote from: Lu Bu on December 16, 2007, 08:50:11 am

uhh, thats not how cast reduction works, it works by diminished returns doesn't it?

He's right. Not exactly sure, but say berz is 66% reduction, robe of cast and wing staff apply to whats left.... 5% or the 44% left after berz. Meaning its impossible to ever get insta cast from cast reduction gears.... And no offense, but I'm really surprised no one has flamed yet, "Zomg FfS YOU CANT GET iC w/o 15ODeX ZoMG!" (true, except for paladins /no1 ).

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: bensei on December 16, 2007, 01:18:01 pm

berze reduce your cast time by 30%, still.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 05:50:02 pm

Well its a good thing I asked first.

- On another server I played, 100% Cast Reduction = IC. So I was curious to see if it worked here for wizards too.

After all, like I said, if I can get away with Full Int + Full Vit/Str I'd do it in a heart beat xD

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: bensei on December 17, 2007, 06:31:38 am

Quote from: Firemousey on December 16, 2007, 05:50:02 pm

Well its a good thing I asked first.

- On another server I played, 100% Cast Reduction = IC. So I was curious to see if it worked here for wizards too.

After all, like I said, if I can get away with Full Int + Full Vit/Str I'd do it in a heart beat xD

100% cast reductions means IC here too, its just that its impossible to reach as non sader/pally.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: TFHiro on December 17, 2007, 07:15:32 am

Go with all of the gear and spec maybe 30-40 dex.  If I figured it right, your cast time should be that of around 145-150 DEX, or similar to it.  It's close enough to IC where any cast is pretty much near instant, but if you're going up against a High DpS class it may or may not proc. 

My HWiz friend did this awhile back, she achieved near IC and we still raped anything we could (it was mainly Niff though).  It's not a bad strategy for cast reduction gears.. I'd say the whole of em might cost you around 35-45m instead of the kahos themselves being 70+m to BEGIN with.

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: thizzle on December 17, 2007, 04:08:53 pm

good point saishi xD

Title: Re: 100% Cast Reduction Gears
Post by: Kentaro555 on December 17, 2007, 04:13:05 pm

aegis give about 18%cast reduction i think