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Title: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 06, 2008, 05:00:48 pm
Budget: I'LL BUY ANYTHING THAT IS NECESSARY, BUT I CAN'T BUY STUFF LIKE NIBs
Build: Current- Str, Agi, Dex
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: DannyYan on October 06, 2008, 05:04:38 pm
What kind of knight are you? A spear knight or a two-handed speed type? What stats are you pumping? Strength or Speed or Vit or a Hybrid?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 06, 2008, 05:07:03 pm
I'm a one handed spear and strength, speed
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: SwiftStrike on October 06, 2008, 05:15:19 pm
this would depend on ur budget... you mean knight or lord knight? weapon: Nib DTT(LK most likely)/DDT kahos/valk helm DL sleips toad valk gtb/maya valk(maya for autoguard in frenzy perhaps-LK) lots and lots of potions
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 06, 2008, 05:17:52 pm
Knight.
Well, I'm not on a budget, but I can't get a nib either. :<
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: cis_trans on October 06, 2008, 05:33:38 pm
Well, I'm not on a budget, but I can't get a nib either. :<
+10 DDTP pike + endow for the win !
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 06, 2008, 05:35:34 pm
;O
Someone told my +10 DDTT Pike.
Which one is better?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Dirgey on October 06, 2008, 09:06:38 pm
Do you need Phree in woe?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Arkensark on October 07, 2008, 05:12:25 am
No, flee is cut to ribbons in WoE.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Silver on October 07, 2008, 07:18:29 am
Hi Windie. ;D
Just get the usual stuff, DL, Raydric, Gr, Toad.
Thats all you need. Your best friend in WoE is the cake.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 07, 2008, 07:37:30 am
Please, if you get a DDTP Pike I'll cry.
DDTP pikes suck, seriously. This is from the experience of using one and playing LK for around a year and a half, possibly moar. D;
Since I guess you're planning on doing non-trans, what Silver said. It wouldn't hurt to get yourself a GTB as well, and perhaps a status armor for switches.
>;
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Silver on October 08, 2008, 02:09:34 am
Has anyone tried a DDMM pike?
On a crit knight? ???
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 08, 2008, 06:19:27 am
The first ever VIT Spear Build Crit Knight was developed by Kyle Sentinel.
He was ridiculed for it by various people, now Crit Knights are considered powerful and are in a fair abundance.
What he used was a Trident[3] I believe. you'll have to ask him for the exact card combination >:
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: skins on October 08, 2008, 07:04:22 am
if u are planning only to be a breaker DDTT is fine..
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: jcflyguy on October 08, 2008, 10:52:09 am
The first ever VIT Spear Build Crit Knight was developed by Kyle Sentinel.
He was ridiculed for it by various people, now Crit Knights are considered powerful and are in a fair abundance.
What he used was a Trident[3] I believe. you'll have to ask him for the exact card combination >:
Aren't Tridents two-handed?
A trident is classed as a spear. One-handed or two-handed, I'm not sure. >;
You'll have to ask him, like I said.
I think he has a DDT/DTT nib now tho.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aryia on October 08, 2008, 12:07:40 pm
I suggest aiming for the universal gears for starters.
Kahos Celeb Rings GTB / Toad Shields Immune / Deviling Mufflers or Manteaus DL Sleips (If you can't afford, go for DL boots) etc
Once you've got those, you've got gears you'll use on basically all of your characters. Of course, to be very efficent you'll need a GR armor, as well as a marc armor so you don't get frozen. But you should first and foremost go for the GR. As for your budget on a weapon, if you tell me how much you're willing to spend, I could probably tell you what you could get with that. But, the best for a knight is DDT or DTT nib, hands down. Second best... I'm not too sure, this also depends on how often you'll be getting endows, if you feel like making an endowslave or not, etc... But remember, you should always have a one handed weapon. Shields are made hax in this server, and you honestly should not go without one as a Knight.. However, the choice is yours. Whatever weapon you do pick though, you'll mostly likely use one or two doppels, one or two turtle generals, one phree, etc. You may go crit, and in that case, you'd save a lot of money from buying celebs as you could buy crit rings instead. Don't worry about a PCB until later, and for your mid-headgear.. You'll need quite a few as a knight. On my knight, I carry nightmare ears (so i don't fall asleep), DI ears (for the cast reduction bonus with my sleips and the hp bonus), ESL ears (so I don't get cursed), etc... All that junk.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 08, 2008, 12:56:03 pm
Please, don't waste your money on shit like celebs.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: jcflyguy on October 08, 2008, 01:51:42 pm
Please, don't waste your money on shit like celebs.
Celebs? Shit? Hahahaha.
He has a point there. At WoE, I would rather use dual Rosaries[0] than Celebs, that being because I don't have Brys(I do have celebs though, and I never use them when I play a melee class at WoE). These are the gears I usually use: Kahos Gibbet Midgear(I just prefer that one lol, you can use Di/Bk/ESL/Gryphon if you feel like it) GR Armor(Silk robe prefered) Gtb / Toad Something(Valk shield prefered obviously) Inmune Garment DL sleips/ DL shoes/boots(Even though I would rather use Sleips[0] than DL Shoes/Boots because I hate slow walking speed) Dual Rosaries[0] / Meg?(I use Meg+Berze Rosary/Rosary[0] when I play my Knight/Sin or Sinx :3) And weapon is really up to his preference if he wants a DDTP/DDTT pike or maybe even a DDT/DDP Saber, or obviously if he can afford it: Nibelugen
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 08, 2008, 06:17:22 pm
It sounds good~
He...? o.o
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: redhairweasel on October 08, 2008, 06:33:52 pm
Please, don't waste your money on shit like celebs.
Celebs? Shit? Hahahaha.
He has a point there. At WoE, I would rather use dual Rosaries[0] than Celebs, that being because I don't have Brys(I do have celebs though, and I never use them when I play a melee class at WoE). These are the gears I usually use: Kahos Gibbet Midgear(I just prefer that one lol, you can use Di/Bk/ESL/Gryphon if you feel like it) GR Armor(Silk robe prefered) Gtb / Toad Something(Valk shield prefered obviously) Inmune Garment DL sleips/ DL shoes/boots(Even though I would rather use Sleips[0] than DL Shoes/Boots because I hate slow walking speed) Dual Rosaries[0] / Meg?(I use Meg+Berze Rosary/Rosary[0] when I play my Knight/Sin or Sinx :3) And weapon is really up to his preference if he wants a DDTP/DDTT pike or maybe even a DDT/DDP Saber, or obviously if he can afford it: Nibelugen
what's the point u wear rosary if u are not in mdef build? where is your maya??
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: jcflyguy on October 08, 2008, 06:48:55 pm
Please, don't waste your money on shit like celebs.
Celebs? Shit? Hahahaha.
He has a point there. At WoE, I would rather use dual Rosaries[0] than Celebs, that being because I don't have Brys(I do have celebs though, and I never use them when I play a melee class at WoE). These are the gears I usually use: Kahos Gibbet Midgear(I just prefer that one lol, you can use Di/Bk/ESL/Gryphon if you feel like it) GR Armor(Silk robe prefered) Gtb / Toad Something(Valk shield prefered obviously) Inmune Garment DL sleips/ DL shoes/boots(Even though I would rather use Sleips[0] than DL Shoes/Boots because I hate slow walking speed) Dual Rosaries[0] / Meg?(I use Meg+Berze Rosary/Rosary[0] when I play my Knight/Sin or Sinx :3) And weapon is really up to his preference if he wants a DDTP/DDTT pike or maybe even a DDT/DDP Saber, or obviously if he can afford it: Nibelugen
what's the point u wear rosary if u are not in mdef build? where is your maya??
Exactly. If you're going that huge Mdef build, you don't need that GTB either. And where's your Raga? An Mdef build really isn't worth it unless you hit 90+.
Of course, I play Stalker, and Mdef is fail for Stalker.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Yagare on October 08, 2008, 09:10:27 pm
@The two previous posts: The maya I just forgot lol, even tough I use Toad Valk most of the time(only switch to maya if there's a wiz or a clown nearby /ok) And Ragamuffin manteau I dun liek :<
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 09, 2008, 04:20:05 am
Please, don't waste your money on shit like celebs.
Celebs? Shit? Hahahaha.
OH, YES.
LET'S WASTE 70MIL ON TWO FUCKING ACCESSORIES WHEN YOU'RE MORE USEFUL WITH A SIGHT CLIP, AND A MAGNUM CLIP IF YOU AREN'T A SWORDY.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: redhairweasel on October 09, 2008, 05:03:36 am
ok pro LK dont have to be so mad suggest to holy light what accessory is good for knight yagare said rosary..any more else u wanna add?
celeb can be used by a of of char +10 for every stat is could be nice for knight...non trans char is kinda weak tho and why is everthing is suck when u say the gear suck?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: SoSmooth on October 09, 2008, 05:07:43 am
Please, don't waste your money on shit like celebs.
Celebs? Shit? Hahahaha.
OH, YES.
LET'S WASTE 70MIL ON TWO FUCKING ACCESSORIES WHEN YOU'RE MORE USEFUL WITH A SIGHT CLIP, AND A MAGNUM CLIP IF YOU AREN'T A SWORDY.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 09, 2008, 06:01:59 am
Lol, let's examine celebs.
STR VIT DEX AGI LUK INT
Of these six stats, I'd say only two, just two are going to be beneficial most of the time. STR and VIT. Don't even bother saying crit. Since celebs are universal, I'm talking universal here too! :police:
DEX. As an LK, I was able to reach 310 HIT without a phree.
AGI. Lol, flee Lord Knight.
LUK. Crit, but you're going to get two celebs just for crit?
INT. Grape Juice.
Congratulations, you just spent 70mil on two pieces of gear that add an extra break point and maybe 2k HP.
Now, you could be helping out a bit more by guarding a chokepoint with a sight clip, but you're just too cool for school cause you have them awesome celebs! ;Da
Of course, if you have all the gear you could ever want, then go ahead, get yourself a pair of celebs, go nuts. But for somebody like Holy Light, who can't even afford a nib yet, they're the most useless things in the world.
DLs. Wind Marc. Toad. GTB. A status armor. Ghostring. All of them > Celebs.
And then, you start saving for nib. Celebs should be the last thing on any person's list.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: SoSmooth on October 09, 2008, 06:03:10 am
y celeb get brys
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: redhairweasel on October 09, 2008, 07:49:57 am
Of these six stats, I'd say only two, just two are going to be beneficial most of the time. STR and VIT. Don't even bother saying crit. Since celebs are universal, I'm talking universal here too! :police:
DEX. As an LK, I was able to reach 310 HIT without a phree.
AGI. Lol, flee Lord Knight.
LUK. Crit, but you're going to get two celebs just for crit?
INT. Grape Juice.
Congratulations, you just spent 70mil on two pieces of gear that add an extra break point and maybe 2k HP.
Now, you could be helping out a bit more by guarding a chokepoint with a sight clip, but you're just too cool for school cause you have them awesome celebs! ;Da
Of course, if you have all the gear you could ever want, then go ahead, get yourself a pair of celebs, go nuts. But for somebody like Holy Light, who can't even afford a nib yet, they're the most useless things in the world.
DLs. Wind Marc. Toad. GTB. A status armor. Ghostring. All of them > Celebs.
And then, you start saving for nib. Celebs should be the last thing on any person's list.
/swt dont sounds u just get a victory hehe..cmon..he is asking for gear..and at 1st u state that celeb shouldnt be use at all by knight but it is still usable right? i didnt say to get celeb 1st while other gear is more important
and if he get all the basic gear needed for woe and the final weapon is nib - u need around 170m to make 1 if he feel he want's more str and more stat why dont he just buy celeb in a mean while he collect nib fund?then just sell that back it's still a choice right??
DEX. As an LK, I was able to reach 310 HIT without a phree. - and did u use that 310hit build in woe?
AGI. Lol, flee Lord Knight. - at least it help a bit facing dancer at emp
LUK. Crit, but you're going to get two celebs just for crit?
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luck also help in decreases the duration time for certain Status Ailments like curse,poison, External Bleeding [Not Implemented Yet] ,Stone Curse and stun,
INT. Grape Juice.
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I believe its like regular defense. base mdef and int mdef. base mdef reduces it by a % while int reduces it by a total. So if you have 1000 matk and you attack something with 50% base mdef and 100 int mdef, the 1000 damage would first be reduced by 500 or 50% and then again by 100 total for 400 total damage per bolt.
so celeb does help a bit right? until u get enough zeny..then just sell that celeb :P
and now i wanna know..what other accessory is worth it other than rosary? i dont think berz help much for knight
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: SoSmooth on October 09, 2008, 08:15:07 am
Berz helps you spam BB
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: crazychildr3n_04 on October 09, 2008, 08:22:15 am
is a +7 garm/gr full plate good? why status? to curb casters during woe? how about some pvm ideas so he can b on his way to get his nib fund... i'd love a nib myself.. n yea, rosary is good budget but celebs? why not, if u've the money. jus sell it away later. n y not card-ed rosary? maybe sting or etc to have more hit.. 310 w/o phree? DDTT instead of DDPT? how? pump dex? ???
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 09, 2008, 08:30:57 am
And. 310 HIT as a Lord Knight. Factor in Concentration and Bash plox.
Were you not reading when I mentioned sight clip?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: crazychildr3n_04 on October 09, 2008, 08:36:29 am
sorry, but i had no idea, berze clips or sight clip add to hit? i tot berze jus reduce cast time lk 33% or something like that and a sight clip? adds to hit? i mus have been so mistaken
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: HaruSama on October 09, 2008, 08:46:04 am
sorry, but i had no idea, berze clips or sight clip add to hit? i tot berze jus reduce cast time lk 33% or something like that and a sight clip? adds to hit? i mus have been so mistaken
Sight Clip enable you to use Sight which helps to reveal hiding/cloacking characters, a great help in WoE. Berz reduce casting time by 30%.
Both have nothing to do with your hit =p
He reaches 310 Hit with a LK using Concentration[+50 Hit at max lvl] and Bash[+50 Bonus Hit at max lvl too]
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: crazychildr3n_04 on October 09, 2008, 08:49:18 am
oh great, ok i get it now. thanks didnt know bash adds hit too. so the rest is jus +dex stats yea?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 09, 2008, 09:37:10 am
oh great, ok i get it now. thanks didnt know bash adds hit too. so the rest is jus +dex stats yea?
As your level increases you also get a bonus to hit. ~_~
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aryia on October 09, 2008, 10:23:38 am
Celebs do come in handy if you do have the right equipment. I use sting brys instead, but basically.. It puts me near IC spiral. I also have a meg on switch for frenzy.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Freestyle on October 09, 2008, 10:43:42 am
I'm slightly confused...Can some list what I should and shouldn't get?
I'm a girl. ;< Not a he, a she.
In order for that you'd have to post the following:
Your current gears Your budget What you plan to do on your Knight in WoE What 'build' you plan on using How serious you are about fully gearing your Knight
Without those you'll end up with information like the past 3 pages, just random equips and builds tossed out there with you sitting there scratching your head.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 09, 2008, 11:21:13 am
Updated page.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Bajorgas on October 09, 2008, 11:28:37 am
You seriously have to put a budget there, or else you'll get people saying nib, megs and brys.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Windie on October 09, 2008, 12:53:36 pm
Updated.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Victoria on October 09, 2008, 12:58:31 pm
DDTP pike. Kahos Thara Raydric GR DL
I'd go for those first...
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: redhairweasel on October 09, 2008, 10:27:40 pm
Budget: I'LL BUY ANYTHING THAT IS NECESSARY, BUT I CAN'T BUY STUFF LIKE NIBs
Build: Current- Str, Agi, Dex
arh..u're that cute baby knight i saw in pront... if u gonna woe..just use non-baby knight...because baby char is nerf on their stat and u still dont have much gear
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 09, 2008, 11:14:12 pm
The first ever VIT Spear Build Crit Knight was developed by Kyle Sentinel.
He was ridiculed for it by various people, now Crit Knights are considered powerful and are in a fair abundance.
What he used was a Trident[3] I believe. you'll have to ask him for the exact card combination >:
Really? Man I love when people toss these claims into posts/conversations.
Way to toot your own horn. ::)
It was the first of it's kind that I saw, excuse me for not being here long enough to witness your magnificent ingenuity.
/hmm valk helm 20 vit+ job bonus 8 vit + kobold briss and meg is 5 vit.... just stack 67 for status resistant or maybe reduce a bit vit and more luck..another status resist and with meg u can choose either 8x or 9x str and the rest on luck what is so hard to be VIT Spear Build Crit Knight??
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 10, 2008, 07:09:33 am
The first ever VIT Spear Build Crit Knight was developed by Kyle Sentinel.
He was ridiculed for it by various people, now Crit Knights are considered powerful and are in a fair abundance.
What he used was a Trident[3] I believe. you'll have to ask him for the exact card combination >:
Really? Man I love when people toss these claims into posts/conversations.
Way to toot your own horn. ::)
It was the first of it's kind that I saw, excuse me for not being here long enough to witness your magnificent ingenuity.
/hmm valk helm 20 vit+ job bonus 8 vit + kobold briss and meg is 5 vit.... just stack 67 for status resistant or maybe reduce a bit vit and more luck..another status resist and with meg u can choose either 8x or 9x str and the rest on luck what is so hard to be VIT Spear Build Crit Knight??
...
You don't really get the point do you. I never mentioned it being hard.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: redhairweasel on October 10, 2008, 07:18:01 am
haha i try those gear minus the kobold briss and using a friend's meg i dont bother looking at forum or anyone because it's not that hard to figure this out and during that time i only see 1 LK but he's not using valk helm
if it's easy to think of VIT Spear Build Crit Knight...then what's so special about this guy?
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: SoSmooth on October 10, 2008, 07:20:32 am
The first ever VIT Spear Build Crit Knight was developed by Kyle Sentinel.
He was ridiculed for it by various people, now Crit Knights are considered powerful and are in a fair abundance.
What he used was a Trident[3] I believe. you'll have to ask him for the exact card combination >:
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: redhairweasel on October 10, 2008, 07:26:52 am
meh why are u always on his side ;< he only assume that because he only saw that guy 1st
my question is not sarcasm..im asking honestly what's the special about his build maybe he can explain if there's any secret or u can tell me where is kyle and lemme ask myself
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Aazher on October 10, 2008, 07:40:16 am
It's because everyone pretty much called the build crapped and dissed him, but he still persisted and look at how popular it is now.
Title: Re: What are good WoE gears for knight?
Post by: Freestyle on October 11, 2008, 01:01:02 am