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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Exentrix on September 22, 2008, 08:38:57 pm

Title: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Exentrix on September 22, 2008, 08:38:57 pm

=\  Once or twice in the past on forums on different sites i have mentioned AnthemRO and how it's free. People respond by telling me that it's illegal =\
Here, i'll quote one person,
"Private RO servers are illegal and we do not condone piracy."

=\ Is AnthemRO really illegal? I don't care if it is, but it's been bugging me because i don't see why something like that would be illegal.
I know you run on donations but what is the deal with this?

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Akina Rose on September 22, 2008, 08:39:57 pm

Well any private server is considered Illegal I think.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: ShinigamiSama on September 22, 2008, 09:11:33 pm

Quote from: Akina Rose on September 22, 2008, 08:39:57 pm

Well any private server is considered Illegal.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: DA~Kaitou on September 22, 2008, 09:40:20 pm

Technically it's illegal(?) but I'm pretty sure it's legal as long as it's non-profit. Private servers can't charge money for people to play. They can however, ask for donations, which is free will of the players to give and support the server.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: axian on September 22, 2008, 09:43:59 pm

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Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Exentrix on September 22, 2008, 10:32:34 pm

ok, I understand it a little more. Thanks everyone. I was just questioning it because people kept ragging on it and how it's "illegal".
 :P
Anyway, Thanks!  :D

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Xavior Hinoarashi on September 23, 2008, 01:34:18 am

Quote from: Exentrix on September 22, 2008, 10:32:34 pm

ok, I understand it a little more. Thanks everyone. I was just questioning it because people kept ragging on it and how it's "illegal".

They say that cause of the software being used.

Aegis is the actual engine used by Gravity to run RO.  Private servers using Aegis are illegal for piracy.

eAthena is a emulator of Aegis.  Private servers using eAthena are illegal for piracy and reverse engineering.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: eimi on September 23, 2008, 02:12:51 am

Quote from: Xavior Hinoarashi on September 23, 2008, 01:34:18 am

alltough its prolly the same, does that mean we're less ilegal than eathena servers ~nyo?^^

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Xavior Hinoarashi on September 23, 2008, 08:39:49 am

Quote from: eimi on September 23, 2008, 02:12:51 am

Quote from: Xavior Hinoarashi on September 23, 2008, 01:34:18 am

alltough its prolly the same, does that mean we're less ilegal than eathena servers ~nyo?^^

Well, from what I know, reverse engineering without consent/permission is serious business.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: DeePee on September 23, 2008, 12:33:40 pm

Well, Aegis is stolen software that is officially used. AFAIK the only way to obtain it is by hacking into the official RO servers. So yes, Aegis is illegal.

eAthena is an opensource emulator, which is...well, illegal as well. However, Gravity did sue eAthena, but they lost the case.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Denia on September 23, 2008, 12:36:52 pm

You know, I keep hearing about that, but I have never seen solid proof of it. I have seen a litigation between 2 different parties, which was not eAthena. However, eAthena users keep claiming that i twas that exact lawsuit which gave eAthena the "rights to run" legally.

I don't quite buy it though :/ (The lawsuit was about them owing money to another party >_> )

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: DeePee on September 23, 2008, 12:42:24 pm

Well, the fact that eAthena is still running at least means Gravity did not win the case. It would have probably been shut down if they did.

But yeah, even if eAthena did win the case, it's still illegal. Same goes for Aegis. As long as others run RO servers without paying Gravity for it, it's considered illegal IMO. Gravity does not care anymore though, so it seems.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: Xavior Hinoarashi on September 23, 2008, 02:48:02 pm

Quote from: DeePee on September 23, 2008, 12:42:24 pm

Well, the fact that eAthena is still running at least means Gravity did not win the case. It would have probably been shut down if they did.

But yeah, even if eAthena did win the case, it's still illegal. Same goes for Aegis. As long as others run RO servers without paying Gravity for it, it's considered illegal IMO. Gravity does not care anymore though, so it seems.

Then what happened in Europe?  I heard euRO (Gravity's Europe RO branch) banhammered all the European based private servers a while ago.

I, too, would like more info about the court battle between Gravity and eAthena users.

Title: Re: =/ This has been bugging me and i want an answer...
Post by: EmptyMoon on September 23, 2008, 09:50:58 pm

Me be the outlaw pirate playing on this server, yarr!!  :P