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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: xTodesengelx on September 03, 2008, 07:07:43 am

Title: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: xTodesengelx on September 03, 2008, 07:07:43 am

Hey,

I like to MVP and found a cool program that helps me track the respawn times of MVPs...
Is it allowed?
If not I won't use it...just checking I don't want to get banned >.>

http://battlemode.org/main/promvp/

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: SoSmooth on September 03, 2008, 07:11:10 am

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ProMVP 3.0 Ragnarok Online MVP Timer
ProMVP is an advanced Ragnarok Online MVP Timer or Boss Timer. ProMVP is not a generic Ragnarok Online MVP tool and does not interfere with the RO client in any way. There are no hooks, no hacks, no boss search. Therefore its safe to say that ProMVP should be able to be used on most if not all official and private RO servers without any problems.

uh, but lets wait for other people to reply .-.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: xTodesengelx on September 03, 2008, 07:12:20 am

Okay ^^

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: Nya on September 03, 2008, 07:15:47 am

I'm going to assume you CANNOT use any third party programs (that includes anything not contained within the RO data and folder originally)

While there may be exceptions (i.e.: MirAI) I do believe this falls under a third party program and you probably could get banned for using it.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: xTodesengelx on September 03, 2008, 07:18:44 am

Oh okay. I won't use it then.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: light aura on September 03, 2008, 07:51:48 am

All it looks like is an advanced computer timer.

I'd still ask the GMs.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: eimi on September 03, 2008, 07:59:12 am

i rather like writeing down what ive killed and when :3 i can only see the problem that some of the mvps have changed spawn timers, like amon? program looks safe from what it wrote there ~nyo^^

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: Ultra Violence on September 03, 2008, 10:15:47 am

Quote from: Website.

ProMVP is an advanced Ragnarok Online MVP Timer or Boss Timer. ProMVP is not a generic Ragnarok Online MVP tool and does not interfere with the RO client in any way.

I'm pretty sure it's safe.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: lugsy on September 03, 2008, 10:55:06 am

Wont help soon, from what I've seen on the test server some mvp's times are randomized

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: Nerkel on September 03, 2008, 08:12:48 pm

Quote from: lugsy on September 03, 2008, 10:55:06 am

Wont help soon, from what I've seen on the test server some mvp's times are randomized

It has the ability for randomized mvps ;p

I too want to see a GM's opinion on this

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: beagle888 on September 03, 2008, 11:51:40 pm

If it doesn't hook into RO, then there's no problem?  It looks like it's just a fancy countdown timer with the capability of contacting other people.

Would you consider Notepad a 3rd party program because you can type in the time that you killed an MVP? I highly doubt it.
Would you consider MSN a 3rd party program if you use it to tell all your friends that you killed SK at 2:30pm?  Nooo.

Unless I'm totally misreading what the program does, it looks completely legal for RO.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: xTodesengelx on September 04, 2008, 01:41:42 am

Would be good to hear a GM's opinion. I just didn't want to start using it and then get banned for it. I like this game too much. >.<

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: Neetox on September 04, 2008, 01:56:56 am

Hmm... I actually use this.. Its like a sophisticated egg timer. It tracks time by when you input that a certain MVP is dead and doesn't have anything to do with the RO client. According to the rules this should be allowed.

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: Tanis on September 04, 2008, 02:16:13 am

if this is allowed, GMs should sticky how to obtain onne

Title: Re: Can I use a MVP Timer?
Post by: Nya on September 04, 2008, 04:22:38 am

Quote from: beagle888 on September 03, 2008, 11:51:40 pm

If it doesn't hook into RO, then there's no problem?  It looks like it's just a fancy countdown timer with the capability of contacting other people.

Would you consider Notepad a 3rd party program because you can type in the time that you killed an MVP? I highly doubt it.
Would you consider MSN a 3rd party program if you use it to tell all your friends that you killed SK at 2:30pm?  Nooo.

Unless I'm totally misreading what the program does, it looks completely legal for RO.

I'd consider Notepad and MSN more of manual timers (in which you actually put effort into timing the MVPs and there's a VERY VERY VERY slim chance you won't get on the scene ASAP) so they are legal since you have to do work to track the MVP, and on Randomized Spawn times, you can't camp a MVP just by *MVP a monster and wait an hour to MVP it again*, now you have to check back between the times.

a MVP timer would remove the challenge out of MVPing because you'd always know how long it'd take the MVP to spawn, EVEN if it's randomized. Now if that happens, how about Creators lose Acid Demonstration and All MVPs are Ghost property please. And fix so the MVPs can teleport past Icewall and use Coma on you.  ::) Because honestly, no one that's doing an honest days work of MVPing will be able to prevent a dumbassed Champ or Bio from going in and KSing the MVP, and get this: Nearly EVERY champ or bio can. All they'd have to do is use that program to find out if the MVPs spawned or not, and by the looks of it, it'd tell them so and then go find the MVP and kill it, possibly stealing it from people that need the experience.

tl;dr: just write down the times, it's probably easier and less hassle overall.