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Title: Doppelganger card
Post by: Siegel on May 01, 2008, 02:09:12 am

Hi,
how much atkspd does it really give?
I have a Rogue lbl 86 with 99+16 agi. Would I reach 190 with just one card?
Siegel

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: shane3x on May 01, 2008, 02:11:05 am

+33%

It doesn't actually increase your attack speed, it reduces the delay between attacks so you can attack much quicker after each attack.

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: Siegel on May 01, 2008, 02:14:22 am

Quote from: shane3x on May 01, 2008, 02:11:05 am

+33%

It doesn't actually increase your attack speed, it reduces the delay between attacks so you can attack much quicker after each attack.

That doesn't help me that much, I have rightnow 181 atkspd. Would I end up with 190 with just one?
And another question, this card has been pimped, right?
Siegel

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: shane3x on May 01, 2008, 02:16:25 am

Quote from: Siegel on May 01, 2008, 02:14:22 am

Quote from: shane3x on May 01, 2008, 02:11:05 am

+33%

It doesn't actually increase your attack speed, it reduces the delay between attacks so you can attack much quicker after each attack.

That doesn't help me that much, I have rightnow 181 atkspd. Would I end up with 190 with just one?
And another question, this card has been pimped, right?
Siegel

If you had 181 aspd one dopp would definitely be enough. I'm pretty sure our dopp does something different from like the official servers.

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: -CMI- on May 01, 2008, 02:20:19 am

if u have just one card doppel ,u can use pot to reach better aspd

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: Siegel on May 01, 2008, 02:20:23 am

Thank you that was the answer I was searching  for  ;D
Siegel

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: eimi on May 01, 2008, 03:27:09 am

the official dopple gives a 'slight' increase in aspd wich is like.. 4-5 aspd ~nyo^^

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: paladin181 on May 01, 2008, 08:53:23 am

Official Doppelganger is +10%...

The lower your aspd, the more effect a Doppel has. How?, you may ask. I'll show you. The formula for attack speed is 50/(200-aspd) It runs a standard 50 FPS, as opposed to the American standard of 60 FPS because it was developed in Asia. That's why the 50. So the formula for max attack speed is:

50/(200-190)=5 attacks per second.

At 181 there are 19 frames between attacks. So adding a Doppel into it, the formula becomes 50/([200-aspd].66) for one doppel, and 50/([200-aspd].33) for 2. Let's plug your aspd into both of these. 50/([200-181].66)=3.125 Attacks per second, or an actual of 184 displayed on your aspd. With two doppels, it becomes 3.846 Attacks per second, or 187.

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: the_undutchable on May 01, 2008, 10:21:20 am

It depends on your weapon as well.
As a rogue you have a slower Aspd with a bow than with a dagger.

With 2 doppels and 99 + full job bonus agi I got the following attack speeds without pots

main gauche: 190
composite bow: 186 or 187, I'm not 100% sure since I didn't use DPS to level my rogue much.

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: paladin181 on May 01, 2008, 12:38:32 pm

The numbers I posted only account for how to calculate your attack speed after you know your unmodified aspd. Naturally, it changes with a weapon, but in the cases I posted, weapon was already equipped, since you'll most likely be trying to figure out your aspd with a particular weapon.

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: cis_trans on May 01, 2008, 12:57:58 pm

I'm guessing you've left out aspd pots as well. Seeing how he could use a Zerk pot and such?   ???

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: paladin181 on May 01, 2008, 02:32:56 pm

That's right. But then, I normally use an aspd pot to gauge my aspd when speccing my agility anyway.

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: Pixie~Stick on May 02, 2008, 03:24:55 pm

your math hurts my brain

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: shot391 on May 02, 2008, 09:48:41 pm

A relativley old post I did http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,20307.0.html (http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php/topic,20307.0.html)

Title: Re: Doppelganger card
Post by: shot391 on May 02, 2008, 10:03:54 pm

Formula is 200-(25.75x0.516667)

200-13.304=186 aspd(that includes awake and 1 dopple.)

Ps: I assumed you had 25 dex

actualy since it did come out as 186.6 it might be 187
Edit: I am taking in consideration that dopple is 33%