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Title: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 22, 2008, 03:28:56 pm

I've been wanting to make an IC magic class for a while, and I now have the funds to do it. I'm leaning towards professor, but I heard HWiz is good too (I've seen what they can do as well). And anyways, I just want some opinions. Who's better overall, PvM and PvP/WoE wise?
Would help a lot if you'd give an opinion. Vote please...

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Dew on April 22, 2008, 05:06:16 pm

PvM: HW is easier to level, MvPing, Mobbing, Lh3, ect.
WoE: Both have important roles.
PvP: GTB gimps HW alot more than Prof.

IMO, Prof is more fun than HW. ;3

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: ~Axle~ on April 22, 2008, 06:21:11 pm

Do you like attacking, or supporting?

Thats the big question.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 22, 2008, 07:39:23 pm

I thought Prof > Hwiz?
And er... Grav Field anyone?

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: RedHawk XIII on April 22, 2008, 07:59:51 pm

for ease of use, h.wiz

for more fun, more complicated, (which i like myself :3) and lil more tedious: prof

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 22, 2008, 09:18:48 pm

I was thinking professor... hmmm... anyone convince me otherwise?oo

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: ~Axle~ on April 22, 2008, 09:38:57 pm

Well like I said - do you like attacking, or supporting?

A highwizard will almost always use an offencive spell, unless their using safteywall.
Scholars on the other hand, will use supportive spells, that benifit your party.

For example in Woe:
On a wizard, your main jobs are to force people to put on GTB, and to freeze people, so that
Champions and Creators can AD frozen targets. (also mob displacement)

On a Scholar however, you'll be endowing your party members, using magnetic earth under the emp (while you attack)
Soulchanging teamates. MG'ing narrow choke points on attacks, and other various things.

Personally; the only offencive move I use in Woe is Soulburn. (and Heavens drive, But thats only to reveal stalkers)

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 22, 2008, 09:53:00 pm

I have a Drake rod... oo
I plan to use Waterball. How good is it? I mean, it is the highest single-damage spell in the game. oo
But I like attacking... =S

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Sonata on April 22, 2008, 10:07:06 pm

WoE tactics for a Professor are strictly supportive. Professors lack the skills to effectively combat with frozen targets, which is one large aspect of the WoE environment. Water Ball would be EXTREMELY weak in such a circumstance. Plus, Webbing people is much more important.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Sailor Flameke on April 22, 2008, 10:32:34 pm

Quote from: Sonata on April 22, 2008, 10:07:06 pm

WoE tactics for a Professor are strictly supportive. Professors lack the skills to effectively combat with frozen targets, which is one large aspect of the WoE environment. Water Ball would be EXTREMELY weak in such a circumstance. Plus, Webbing people is much more important.

Endows are also important. Magnetic Earth. Dispell. Wall of Fog.

Scholars are quite supportive.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Ressy on April 22, 2008, 11:56:38 pm

Ewww, no more Hw. Go prof

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Akina Rose on April 23, 2008, 12:07:52 am

I always thought " The Mage class must be Soooo boring " Well I've tried Highwizard and in Pvm I always had a blast mvping and killing monsters , with help of course. I never tried high wizard out during WoE though.
As for scholar , It's fun in Pvm , All I mainly do is Waterball to Mvp though since it's much more faster then any other skill but it's still fun , In WoE Scholar is Very fun , even if it's just supporting. I'm used to Creator , Sinx and well any non support class really and I thought scholar might bore me but I got proved wrong. They're helpful and interesting.

    They are hard to 99 though , Lh3 leech is always the best once you hit 90 , but to get to 90 , I had a hard time doing so , but with help from pity and friends I got it to 90 <3

I say you go scholar but the decision is of course up to you.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Dew on April 23, 2008, 12:11:59 am

Quote from: Akina Rose on April 23, 2008, 12:07:52 am

I always thought " The Mage class must be Soooo boring " Well I've tried Highwizard and in Pvm I always had a blast mvping and killing monsters , with help of course. I never tried high wizard out during WoE though.
As for scholar , It's fun in Pvm , All I mainly do is Waterball to Mvp though since it's much more faster then any other skill but it's still fun , In WoE Scholar is Very fun , even if it's just supporting. I'm used to Creator , Sinx and well any non support class really and I thought scholar might bore me but I got proved wrong. They're helpful and interesting.

    They are hard to 99 though , Lh3 leech is always the best once you hit 90 , but to get to 90 , I had a hard time doing so , but with help from pity and friends I got it to 90 <3

I say you go scholar but the decision is of course up to you.

Why get Lh3 leeches?
Lh3ing on prof isn't that hard. =o

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Akina Rose on April 23, 2008, 12:15:56 am

Quote from: Dew on April 23, 2008, 12:11:59 am

Quote from: Akina Rose on April 23, 2008, 12:07:52 am

I always thought " The Mage class must be Soooo boring " Well I've tried Highwizard and in Pvm I always had a blast mvping and killing monsters , with help of course. I never tried high wizard out during WoE though.
As for scholar , It's fun in Pvm , All I mainly do is Waterball to Mvp though since it's much more faster then any other skill but it's still fun , In WoE Scholar is Very fun , even if it's just supporting. I'm used to Creator , Sinx and well any non support class really and I thought scholar might bore me but I got proved wrong. They're helpful and interesting.

    They are hard to 99 though , Lh3 leech is always the best once you hit 90 , but to get to 90 , I had a hard time doing so , but with help from pity and friends I got it to 90 <3

I say you go scholar but the decision is of course up to you.

Why get Lh3 leeches?
Lh3ing on prof isn't that hard. =o

True , especially when I have Tome access from my brother Ozg <3
I truly have no idea why I haven't tried it
I mean normally either me or Pity use my younger brothers champ because my champ is in my profs account and leech my prof with a dracs and amut , but would having the Prof kill them be faster ? even without the dracs and amut ?

I think I misspelled " amut " ;_:

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Pity on April 23, 2008, 12:33:02 am

Trust me, with a quad drac and am mut, lhz3 leeching the prof with a champ is infinitely faster especially with suiken etc.; it's true she'd probably use less gj on her own but we aren't lvling it to just eventually reach 99 someday off in the future, we were raising it's lvl as fast as possible to be ready for woe.

Prof is horrible for pvm, at least compared to High wizard.  I find it easier to lvl a non-sqi HW than a insanely geared Prof.  They're also better for mvping.  Prof is probably more useful for woe or pvp situations once theres already a HW or two.

Either is fine but i guess it's a play style decision and I much prefer HW.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: shuyuki14 on April 23, 2008, 07:23:56 am

All I have to say is go H.Wiz C:

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 23, 2008, 11:05:42 am

My build is er... using all 69 prof points and all 49 mage points, I'll have every skill I want. Except Magnetic Earth. But we have another prof in our guild who does that already. I'll have WoF, Spider Web, Double Cast, and 2 endows, along with HD 5 and SW and a few lvl 10 bolts - Soul Burn ----> HD to death. If Soul Burn fails, 2-3 GJ and then Soul Exchange.
(reaching 70 job will be a bish though) =S
Anyone have a good job build for Hwiz? Assuming I have 49 mage skill points.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: ~Axle~ on April 23, 2008, 01:03:26 pm

You'll want magnetic earth. Trust me on this. If your other Scholar dies, you'll be left high and dry. For offence its one of your
most usefull skills you can get. (1) For the Emp and (2) for narrow points, when your guildies are getting frozen.

Throw out Double cast for Woe, since you probably won't be using bolts (If you are using them, then you're probably in a fairly small guild)
You only need HD up to level 1, because if you're in a larger guild, you'll only be using it to un-chase walk stalkers.

Thats' my advice anyways.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 23, 2008, 01:07:19 pm

OK. I'll try that. I'm in Darkness Falls, btw. And does anyone have a good skill build for Hwiz?

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: ~Axle~ on April 23, 2008, 01:18:59 pm

I know nothing at all about the highwizard class.

I'll get my Girlfriend here to post one when she wakes up. She's been a Highwizard for along time.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Aryia on April 23, 2008, 02:01:45 pm

I honestly don't like the HW class for a few reasons... Main ones being their HP is very low, and that after casting storm gust, they can't use any other skills for a few seconds. I know it's a lame reason to dislike a class, but still.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 23, 2008, 08:55:22 pm

Ok... thanks a lot. <3
Looks like it'll be prof. btw... I heard Prof is a b*** to level?
x-x

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Sonata on April 23, 2008, 09:29:06 pm

High Wizard. Mainly Storm Gust and Jupiter Thunder for PvM. Ice Wall and Heavens Drive for MvP's.

As a High Wizard in WoE, you'll be casting Storm Gust mainly for creating frozen targets for burst-damage classes. Jupiter Thunder is an effective means of dealing damage to frozen targets, and is extremely spammable without the aid of Bragi. Heavens Drive is good to have to deal with Wind armors, but Professors with Tome might be more suited to that job. Safety Wall critical points to prevent Pneuma's from being set up. Gravitational Field's for detection of Stalkers and GTB'd SINXs.

Here, I cannot stress this enough. Get Ganbantein. It kills Land Protector's, Safety Wall's, Sanctuary's, Minstrel and Gypsy songs, and a myriad of ground targeting magic, such as Storm Gust. You should be Bragi'd, so cast time shouldn't be an issue.

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: Saihyo-sen on April 23, 2008, 11:12:32 pm

I've got both a HW and a prof, and I can definitely say that prof > HW (not power-wise, but more in the usefulness of the class). In woe, you can of course use LP(land protector) to support your allies who don't have a GTB, use WoF(wall of fog) to protect yourself and allies vs long ranged attacks(makes AD, SB, SP miss 75% of the time and reduces long ranged damage by 75% too!), spider web ennemies to hold them back and to deal twice more damage with fire bolt and can also be some sort of support skill if you're working with a team who's gonna rape the spider webbed ennemies. You can also soul burn to sucks ennemies' sp, especially champs whose asura power depends on sp amount(makes them waste gjs), HD for mass damage and uncloak stalkers, dispell all ennemies to remove nearly all their buffs(really useful vs sinx and LKs). That's roughly what a scholar can do.

High Wizard is however easier to lvl up because you can ice wall mvps. Gravitational field is a really really good skill for woe, and works as a support skill to kill people who have GTB or insane mdef/def. However, HW tends to be boring because you spend your day SGing/JTing. Sure they're powerful skills but it just gets boring xD lol. 

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 24, 2008, 10:55:15 am

Okeh. ;D
Well, I think I'll make a Prof, then Hwiz as my next one. /gg
Since I have 2 close to trans. They use the same gear (except for prof who uses a Drake tome or Perfect (dex) Survivor's Rod.
If I'm thinking correctly. And the IC gear is the same for both, right?

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: eimi on April 24, 2008, 11:15:06 am

i voted and broke the tie ~nyo^^

Title: Re: Professor or High Wizard?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 24, 2008, 11:20:32 am

;o
Guess it's Prof first then, and then Hwiz as my third trans~
Thanks guys. Er, could someone post the IC gear I need for Prof/Hwiz? Since they use the same gear- I think...