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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: scudstorm64 on November 24, 2007, 06:56:40 am
Title: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: scudstorm64 on November 24, 2007, 06:56:40 am
I just wanted to know; what's a good armor/card for a lvl99 HP to be used in niff? What about for shields? I have a +7 buckler from hell right now but there might be a better option? ~regardless of price but non-SQI as I can't afford it atm :laugh:
Thanks a lot ;)
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Mirandu on November 24, 2007, 07:07:38 am
Shield? Tirfing Shield seems to be better than Khalitz, but I dunno. Not using it.
Armor.. Holy Robe? (Decreases Damage from Demon and Dark Elemental monsters), or a Garm Armor? I always used a Peco Peco Saints Robe to get more HP, but there are probably other alternatives for richer people than me.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Aozora on November 24, 2007, 07:14:30 am
Idea shield would be overupped tirifing carded shield. Tirifing reduces damage from medium size monsters, while khalitz reduces damage form demon property attacks. So Khalitz is pretty much useless in niff, except against that one attack that Dullies do.
As for armor, yes holy robe is actually quite efficent in Niff, if you can get an overupped holy robe then that's probably your best bet. As for alternative, an overupped Garm saint's robe is also good. Some people prefer to use Diguise armor as well to prevent any monster skills. And some use shadow/undead (Bathory or evil druid card) property armor to decrease the damage from that shadow attack dullies do.
But Tirifing shield and overupped Holy robe are probably the best in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Mirandu on November 24, 2007, 07:25:21 am
Idea shield would be overupped tirifing carded shield. Tirifing reduces damage from medium size monsters, while khalitz reduces damage form demon property attacks. So Khalitz is pretty much useless in niff, except against that one attack that Dullies do.
As for armor, yes holy robe is actually quite efficent in Niff, if you can get an overupped holy robe then that's probably your best bet. As for alternative, an overupped Garm saint's robe is also good. Some people prefer to use Diguise armor as well to prevent any monster skills. And some use shadow/undead (Bathory or evil druid card) property armor to decrease the damage from that shadow attack dullies do.
But Tirifing shield and overupped Holy robe are probably the best in my opinion.
I wouldn't use Undead Armor as a High Priest in Niff.. /swt Bathory will do, but Undead.. oh well, then you need to take some meats with you. But I doubt you'll want to do this as a High Priest with a 2-3k Heal...
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Aozora on November 24, 2007, 07:26:35 am
OH yeah, that was a BS/WS armor ._. My bad xD
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: scudstorm64 on November 24, 2007, 07:53:39 am
hahaha ;D ;D
that's kinda weird, a hp using meat instead of heal/sanc :-\
:D
By the way, can anyone tell me what exactly a holy armor does? ??? All it says in the card description is "Enchants armors with the holy property," but how does it help in niff? ;D
Thanks ;)
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Mirandu on November 24, 2007, 09:02:53 am
Well, a Holy armor in Niff would be suicide ;)
Holy Armor gives your body the Holy Element - fragile for Dark and Undead Elemental attacks (which can be done to you by the monsters there). Holy is only strong against Holy itself.. and it reduces 25% of Wind, Earth, Fire, and Water damage.
But it doesn't help in Skellington.
Crusaders/Paladins wear it to negate the Grand Cross damage which backfires at them.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: prethvin_91 on November 24, 2007, 09:14:26 am
So why is everyone suggesting that one should wear a holy saints robe!!?!?
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Mirandu on November 24, 2007, 09:21:44 am
i have a question here. will tirfing card work in valley of the gol wadever (i dunno the name for it >< but its niff2)
Works on any Medium monster, and player. (Players are considered medium I believe) www.ratemyserver.com
Search up the monster you wanna know about, and look to see its size.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: snipe795 on November 24, 2007, 04:52:16 pm
ok thx axle
ok edit if u use khalitzburg card thats good for niff 2 which is the one i asked for but if u want tirfing its better for niff3
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Aozora on November 24, 2007, 07:26:01 pm
Tirifing is the best for Skellington. But if you want to go in the Valley of Gyoll then Executioner card is the best. It gives 25% less damage from large size monster,
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Sapphirion on November 25, 2007, 12:28:47 am
i say tirfing and +7 garm armor
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Teo_live on November 25, 2007, 12:50:03 am
Well the damage done on MOST attacks seems nuetral (i noticed a massive decrease in monster damage when i put on a Dev). There special attacks however is elemental, although it doesnt happen as often as nuetral hitting.
Personally in the Valley id use a Dev robe, Garm armour and a Shield from hell. If your in skillington id consider dropping the Dev for a immune.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: O d i n on November 25, 2007, 05:50:20 am
my suggestion...use a disguise armor..its cheap..but effective..
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: bensei on November 25, 2007, 06:40:47 am
Personally in the Valley id use a Dev robe, Garm armour and a Shield from hell. If your in skillington id consider dropping the Dev for a immune.
There's no point in dropping an extra 30% damage reduction because of occasional attacks that deal maybe 300-500 damage. Every single Priest or High priest out there can outheal that kind of damage. And as it wa said, Disguise works if the shadow attack really bothers you.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: KinValley on November 25, 2007, 09:26:07 am
i believe decent skill wins all armors.
Well, while you mob, basically you wont stand in the ME after you ME'ed. That is commiting suicide. I dont know, i mob a lot. And if I stand in ME after i ME'ed, i will die, even thought i have 12k hp.
So i tend to run a lot, (finger will numbs after an hour...too much Clicking.. >_<") I mob and i ME'ed then walk Around the ME. So that the mobs chasing you but at the same time, they r in the ME. ;)
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: scudstorm64 on November 25, 2007, 09:41:28 am
I bought a +7 garm and a +7 tirfing and the damage difference surprised me; I sure don't regret it :o Previously dullahans managed to do around 50-60 damage but now its just 10-35 :o :) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Teo_live on November 25, 2007, 11:44:31 pm
Personally in the Valley id use a Dev robe, Garm armour and a Shield from hell. If your in skillington id consider dropping the Dev for a immune.
There's no point in dropping an extra 30% damage reduction because of occasional attacks that deal maybe 300-500 damage. Every single Priest or High priest out there can outheal that kind of damage. And as it wa said, Disguise works if the shadow attack really bothers you.
If you are rich, healer or a tanker class yes...
If your a poor low HP class then no
Basically u can get 1 shot KO'd by that attack.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Velocity on November 26, 2007, 12:13:29 am
Yeah i'd stick to trifling and Holy robe overupped for nif
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Aozora on November 26, 2007, 03:22:57 am
Personally in the Valley id use a Dev robe, Garm armour and a Shield from hell. If your in skillington id consider dropping the Dev for a immune.
There's no point in dropping an extra 30% damage reduction because of occasional attacks that deal maybe 300-500 damage. Every single Priest or High priest out there can outheal that kind of damage. And as it wa said, Disguise works if the shadow attack really bothers you.
If you are rich, healer or a tanker class yes...
If your a poor low HP class then no
Basically u can get 1 shot KO'd by that attack.
If you get 1 hit killed by that dully shadow attack then you should go and train somewhere else o.O... Dullahans attack around 1k at max if you have 0 DEF. Even with NPC gears you'll get 20-30% reduction. With Kahos, some upgrades and all that other IC stuff coupled with buffs you'll reduce the damage a whole lot more. To maybe around 300 points at most. Now 50% more to that is like 450 HP taken from you, 600 at max. If that one hit kills you then you're doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: DreamerP on November 26, 2007, 07:59:10 am
garm and tirfing FTW
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Saihyo-sen on November 27, 2007, 03:52:16 am
Personally in the Valley id use a Dev robe, Garm armour and a Shield from hell. If your in skillington id consider dropping the Dev for a immune.
There's no point in dropping an extra 30% damage reduction because of occasional attacks that deal maybe 300-500 damage. Every single Priest or High priest out there can outheal that kind of damage. And as it wa said, Disguise works if the shadow attack really bothers you.
If you are rich, healer or a tanker class yes...
If your a poor low HP class then no
Basically u can get 1 shot KO'd by that attack.
If you get 1 hit killed by that dully shadow attack then you should go and train somewhere else o.O... Dullahans attack around 1k at max if you have 0 DEF. Even with NPC gears you'll get 20-30% reduction. With Kahos, some upgrades and all that other IC stuff coupled with buffs you'll reduce the damage a whole lot more. To maybe around 300 points at most. Now 50% more to that is like 450 HP taken from you, 600 at max. If that one hit kills you then you're doing something wrong.
My LK gets shot when I get mobbed by dulahans because I've got a devi muff.. Those jerks spend their time using their special attacks which is annoying and I sometimes can't outheal 6 dulahans doing 500dmg... I'll have to drop a disguise card for sure >>.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Aozora on November 27, 2007, 04:42:19 am
Well LK who acn't outheal/outcake/outmeat etc isn't that uncommon. But we're talking about HP's who generally can reach 2k heals relatively easily.
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Saihyo-sen on November 27, 2007, 06:05:03 am
/meh I took a disguise card that was going around my storage and equipped it on a padded armor, now it's all fine x3
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Teo_live on November 28, 2007, 08:30:51 am
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If you get 1 hit killed by that dully shadow attack then you should go and train somewhere else o.O...
Or u can just take off ur Dev LOL!
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Dullahans attack around 1k at max if you have 0 DEF.
Dulls special attack ignores DEF >.>
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: rolover on December 10, 2007, 09:42:25 pm
um...the khalitz description is actually "Reduce damage from Demon monster by 30%" not demon property attacks...there is no such thing theres shadow prop atks but no demon prop unless aro changed it cuz i checked on both roempire and ratemyserver so......id stick with the extra 5% tho dully is undead so i dunno
Title: Re: Ideal Armor/Shield for HP in niff
Post by: Mirandu on December 11, 2007, 03:06:49 am
um...the khalitz description is actually "Reduce damage from Demon monster by 30%" not demon property attacks...there is no such thing theres shadow prop atks but no demon prop unless aro changed it cuz i checked on both roempire and ratemyserver so......id stick with the extra 5% tho dully is undead so i dunno
There are more Demon monsters (Gibbet, Hylozoist, Disguise) than Medium monsters (Dullahan, Disguise), thus:
Khalitz > Tirfing.
BUT the medium monsters do more damage than the Demon monsters, thus:
Tirfing > Khalitz.
Doesn't really matter if the monster does a special property attack or not. As long as it belongs to the race, there is reduction.
Dullahans attack around 1k at max if you have 0 DEF.
Dulls special attack ignores DEF >.>
No, Dullahans can crit you, but that's not the special attack. That's just a normal elemental hit, ignoring Def and so on (like every crit). There's a Dark/Shadow Elemental Hit, this one is not a crit, so it WILL be reduced by Def.