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Title: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: fl0om on February 20, 2008, 06:24:19 am

Since i never heard anything about it:

I'd like to know if intentional disconnecting using Warmth Spam is allowed ? (In case of Mvping other Bosses then Valk for example)

I'm just curious because this happened to me some times and i'm wondering if it's allowed  :P

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Razer on February 20, 2008, 08:01:22 am

I think if a person is found to repeatedly do it and you have proof , some penalizing action will be taken. Lastly play with effects off and if your PC starts lagging , minimize and maximize the aro window once. I cant guarabtee that they will work but possibly offer a relief.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: DA~Kaitou on February 20, 2008, 08:05:18 am

If it's MVP, it may just be fine since it's free for all? Not sure about this and if it were penalized, it'd be hard to prove if they're doing it on purpose or not. =\

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: lugsy on February 20, 2008, 08:23:56 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 08:01:22 am

I think if a person is found to repeatedly do it and you have proof , some penalizing action will be taken. Lastly play with effects off and if your PC starts lagging , minimize and maximize the aro window once. I cant guarabtee that they will work but possibly offer a relief.

As stated by the other threads about heat spam, /effects doesn't stop the lag ;/ It's the mass amount of packets that get sent and stuff that cause the lag, not the animation.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 08:55:45 am

Quote from: Demonic Archangel on February 20, 2008, 08:05:18 am

If it's MVP, it may just be fine since it's free for all? Not sure about this and if it were penalized, it'd be hard to prove if they're doing it on purpose or not. =\

this has nothing to do with mvps being FFA -_-
it is about disconnecting and lagging people and thereby crashing their clients ... should be a rule offend in my eyes - 1st offend = temp ban, 2nd = perm ban
if there is no rule for this, people will enjoy disconnecting half prontera to get a good vending spot :police:

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Denia on February 20, 2008, 09:44:31 am

Quote from: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 08:55:45 am

Quote from: Demonic Archangel on February 20, 2008, 08:05:18 am

If it's MVP, it may just be fine since it's free for all? Not sure about this and if it were penalized, it'd be hard to prove if they're doing it on purpose or not. =\

this has nothing to do with mvps being FFA -_-
it is about disconnecting and lagging people and thereby crashing their clients ... should be a rule offend in my eyes - 1st offend = temp ban, 2nd = perm ban
if there is no rule for this, people will enjoy disconnecting half prontera to get a good vending spot :police:

The problem with this would be that a lot of SGs, will lag out and DC when you lag out and DC as well and that it is not intentional as everyone might think.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: DA~Kaitou on February 20, 2008, 09:56:06 am

Quote from: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 08:55:45 am

Quote from: Demonic Archangel on February 20, 2008, 08:05:18 am

If it's MVP, it may just be fine since it's free for all? Not sure about this and if it were penalized, it'd be hard to prove if they're doing it on purpose or not. =\

this has nothing to do with mvps being FFA -_-

Well, seems to me that's what he's talking about.

And like Denia said, when you d/c, he does too (most of the time).

Quote from: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 08:55:45 am

it is about disconnecting and lagging people and thereby crashing their clients ... should be a rule offend in my eyes - 1st offend = temp ban, 2nd = perm ban
if there is no rule for this, people will enjoy disconnecting half prontera to get a good vending spot :police:

One SG spamming heat won't crash Prontera unless they're doing it IN Prontera which isn't allowed anyway. ;x

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 10:01:33 am

oh well, yea he will most likely dc too. but what if there are like 3 other sgs waiting for the guy (who runs after you) to disconnect you so they can get mvp ; ) ?
dont tell me this is not intentional lmao
/swt
 

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: DA~Kaitou on February 20, 2008, 10:19:19 am

That's why I said:

Quote from: Demonic Archangel on February 20, 2008, 08:05:18 am

If it's MVP, it may just be fine since it's free for all? Not sure about this and if it were penalized, it'd be hard to prove if they're doing it on purpose or not. =\

and this could be done:

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 08:01:22 am

I think if a person is found to repeatedly do it and you have proof , some penalizing action will be taken.

/hmm

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Denia on February 20, 2008, 10:23:01 am

Quote from: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 10:01:33 am

oh well, yea he will most likely dc too. but what if there are like 3 other sgs waiting for the guy (who runs after you) to disconnect you so they can get mvp ; ) ?
dont tell me this is not intentional lmao
/swt

And how would you know that it's intentional unless it's done many times by the exact same person and have documentation of each DC? I mean, they could always have back up because they're a new SG who just over heat stacks on accident. And it would need to not be an MVP.

MVPs are FFA, players have been known to IW others in, which sometimes causes DC. I do not see it as anything different in this case.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Razer on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Oh well Valkyrie is meh . Ruthless play , dishonourable play and play resulting into large amounts of zeny by the use of a glitch =\
I wonder how many of the valkyrie gears were obtained by killing valkyrie from a non SG character. 0 I bet lol.
Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Denia on February 20, 2008, 10:38:27 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Oh well Valkyrie is meh . Ruthless play , dishonourable play and play resulting into large amounts of zeny by the use of a glitch =\
I wonder how many of the valkyrie gears were obtained by killing valkyrie from a non SG character. 0 I bet lol.
Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

I believe back in the days of Vandalize and MotE, Valkyrie was killed by other methods and not by SGs multiple times to farm for her armors and manteaus.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Razer on February 20, 2008, 10:42:59 am

Quote from: GM Denia on February 20, 2008, 10:38:27 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Oh well Valkyrie is meh . Ruthless play , dishonourable play and play resulting into large amounts of zeny by the use of a glitch =\
I wonder how many of the valkyrie gears were obtained by killing valkyrie from a non SG character. 0 I bet lol.
Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

I believe back in the days of Vandalize and MotE, Valkyrie was killed by other methods and not by SGs multiple times to farm for her armors and manteaus.

I was part of those teams . We had Lao who had claimed that he had killed her with a champ. Orguss who had made a vandalz team , Think they did it a few times (8-10). A few times done by seigi too. Though it took almost 30mins - 1 hr to kill her. In fact Sanjino had posted a video which showed that it took them 2 hours with a 5 man team. But that was way back when Odins was newly patched on to aRO. Mid bossy shouldve kept this method a secret lol ;-;

Sigh If only valk was to be killed by only that way.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 10:45:59 am

hehe, i could fraps it the next time when i am experiencing an intentional overstacking   :D
but as you said it wouldnt lead to anything since this is kinda allowed ? good to know  8)

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: AceJay on February 20, 2008, 10:47:40 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:42:59 am

Mid bossy shouldve kept this method a secret lol ;-;

He's regretting it now, kekeke

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Wonderful Fellow Angel on February 20, 2008, 11:05:17 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

You should come check me out in Lh3, I've been roughing up that place last week. :3

And the DC's are entirely unintentinal, as it DC's everyone, even the Star Gladiator.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: fl0om on February 20, 2008, 11:19:55 am

thanks for your replies i kind of see this whole situation now =P

let's see the future development of this D:

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Razer on February 20, 2008, 11:25:36 am

Quote from: Black Angel on February 20, 2008, 11:05:17 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

You should come check me out in Lh3, I've been roughing up that place last week. :3

And the DC's are entirely unintentinal, as it DC's everyone, even the Star Gladiator.

Bish thank me for that I suggested that on MSN :<
Btw I did lol u were trying to run away from a normal LK using run :p

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 11:35:56 am

lol coward xD

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: paladin181 on February 20, 2008, 11:48:57 am

Quote

Exploiting bugs that result in the gain of large quantities of zeny or items, or disrupting the server will result in a ban. Reporting a bug of this nature will result in a reward.

So this rule just doesn't apply anymore??

EDIT: I forgot it never did apply to some people. But that's another time, another story. So seriously, people caught stacking heat (which is an admitted bug) aren't punished?

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Razer on February 20, 2008, 12:02:49 pm

Quote from: Torunkusu on February 20, 2008, 11:35:56 am

lol coward xD

???? Was your friend going to do something else that he didnt.

@Acejay: too late for regrets ;-;

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: paladin181 on February 20, 2008, 07:47:42 pm

The truth shall kill the thread. >.>

Ah well. Not going to comment on the rules or enforcement.  8)

Aaaaaaanyhoo.

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Denia on February 20, 2008, 07:48:55 pm

Actually, it was approved back before the server was under Harken's ownership. And it just hasn't changed since, I was actually going to wait to speak to Isuzu before posting about it since I don't really know >_>

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: lugsy on February 20, 2008, 09:40:12 pm

Quote from: Black Angel on February 20, 2008, 11:05:17 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

You should come check me out in Lh3, I've been roughing up that place last week. :3

And the DC's are entirely unintentinal, as it DC's everyone, even the Star Gladiator.

I helped you :< (Harbel).. not saying you couldn't have done it/figured it out without me, but I told you how to awesomely lure, and I trap a lot of mvps for you :<
And tbh, I don't know why parties don't try valk now (inb4greed), the monster stretch is thin.. pots+hp+steel body+ bio= lol wut? toss in a hw and a few more for fun maybe :/

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Razer on February 21, 2008, 12:43:07 am

Quote from: lugsy on February 20, 2008, 09:40:12 pm

Quote from: Black Angel on February 20, 2008, 11:05:17 am

Quote from: Razerman on February 20, 2008, 10:32:54 am

Though I rarely see SGs killing bosses other then Valk.

You should come check me out in Lh3, I've been roughing up that place last week. :3

And the DC's are entirely unintentinal, as it DC's everyone, even the Star Gladiator.

I helped you :< (Harbel).. not saying you couldn't have done it/figured it out without me, but I told you how to awesomely lure, and I trap a lot of mvps for you :<
And tbh, I don't know why parties don't try valk now (inb4greed), the monster stretch is thin.. pots+hp+steel body+ bio= lol wut? toss in a hw and a few more for fun maybe :/

Yea and while you are doing all this , you suddenly get DC, only to log back and see that a random SG has already killed the valk , amirite?

Title: Re: Warmth DC - Illegal?
Post by: Dew on February 21, 2008, 02:14:06 am

It's kinda retarded that you don't get in trouble for it. .-.
After all, it IS exploiting a glitch.