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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: darkangel14 on November 19, 2007, 11:47:12 pm
Title: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: darkangel14 on November 19, 2007, 11:47:12 pm
Dex suiken can use 2 megs :(
can do good attack :'(
Suiken int can do good in asura but not in casting time
i suppose to use megs and bryss but still need a timing to kill using asura :police:
give comment if wat is better Int suiken or Dex?
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Bomber Will on November 19, 2007, 11:49:36 pm
Both suikens suck, they both encourage asura spam noobs.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Fuerte on November 19, 2007, 11:55:13 pm
Both suikens suck, they both encourage asura spam noobs.
marry me now. =I
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Flash Phoenix on November 20, 2007, 10:26:48 am
All class's have 1 really good move.
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Sora on November 20, 2007, 10:39:45 am
Dex is way better...
You can wear Raydric instead of monsoon,you can wear 2 megs and Pest wont help you with the Int-Suiken...if you skill 99 dex there are no Skillpoints anymore to skill this 77 Base int :P ;)
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: samsimilian on November 20, 2007, 10:58:55 am
try the allrounder champ. IC with good asura dmg after other attacks =P
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Bomber Will on November 20, 2007, 12:25:11 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
In order to stop an IC megged/suiken asura, you need toad, gr, deviling and over 20k HP. To stop Acid Demo, just use less vit and a mace for a weapon. I never said I don't use asura...and I never said I DO own suiken either. I have beaten plenty of people without asura and I beaten plenty of people with asura. If someone gets frozen due to my armor, their ass is getting asura'ed. My TSS and Occult damage are already deadly, I have hit people for 10k-15k using each move. Along with Blade Stop, most melee hits won't do shit to me o.O I know my class well enough, it would be nice to lag less to I don't get position bugged though -.- Asura is usually on my second set of hotkeys so I don't use it right away (unless its an asura match like against that Royaltowner nub)
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: DreamerP on November 20, 2007, 03:52:14 pm
Easy question DEX version /ok People wear Water OL which means no asura /swt Dex gives IC and duel megs for FO RAWR /rice
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Messiahic Murder on November 20, 2007, 04:08:07 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
"Good move"
Ahhh how terrible.
I'm sure you mean high damage move?
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Xennith on November 20, 2007, 04:11:50 pm
If you think every job really only has one skill that matters, you don't know what you're talking about. Even if you're referring to the big-money damage move.
Wrong. Bad. Fail.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Pixie~Stick on November 20, 2007, 04:13:17 pm
If you think every job really only has one skill that matters, you don't know what you're talking about.
agreed /ok
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Warr on November 20, 2007, 04:35:33 pm
Not only that Asrua is also burst dmg, and you only need like 10seconds or less to recover to full SP from asrua /ok
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Little Angel on November 20, 2007, 04:42:58 pm
Be able to spawn FO and not stop using any skill i think dex is important. int after all is pull back ur hp use heal and asura which is last thing u have to worry about.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Flash Phoenix on November 21, 2007, 02:12:58 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
In order to stop an IC megged/suiken asura, you need toad, gr, deviling and over 20k HP. To stop Acid Demo, just use less vit and a mace for a weapon. I never said I don't use asura...and I never said I DO own suiken either. I have beaten plenty of people without asura and I beaten plenty of people with asura. If someone gets frozen due to my armor, their ass is getting asura'ed. My TSS and Occult damage are already deadly, I have hit people for 10k-15k using each move. Along with Blade Stop, most melee hits won't do shit to me o.O I know my class well enough, it would be nice to lag less to I don't get position bugged though -.- Asura is usually on my second set of hotkeys so I don't use it right away (unless its an asura match like against that Royaltowner nub)
I agree with you totally, im just saying, you can't really blame a suiken champ for using asura, cause its KO for their opponent.
If you think every job really only has one skill that matters, you don't know what you're talking about. Even if you're referring to the big-money damage move.
Wrong. Bad. Fail.
When did I say that they were the only skill that matters ?? I SAID 1 really good (meaning powerfull) move. were talking about the most powerfull move that each class has. Never said it was the most important. I suggest you read first before putting words in my mouth. I know how to play my class, dont tell me I don't know what im talking about.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Orelus on November 21, 2007, 03:04:09 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
In order to stop an IC megged/suiken asura, you need toad, gr, deviling and over 20k HP. To stop Acid Demo, just use less vit and a mace for a weapon. I never said I don't use asura...and I never said I DO own suiken either. I have beaten plenty of people without asura and I beaten plenty of people with asura. If someone gets frozen due to my armor, their ass is getting asura'ed. My TSS and Occult damage are already deadly, I have hit people for 10k-15k using each move. Along with Blade Stop, most melee hits won't do shit to me o.O I know my class well enough, it would be nice to lag less to I don't get position bugged though -.- Asura is usually on my second set of hotkeys so I don't use it right away (unless its an asura match like against that Royaltowner nub)
I agree with you totally, im just saying, you can't really blame a suiken champ for using asura, cause its KO for their opponent.
If you think every job really only has one skill that matters, you don't know what you're talking about. Even if you're referring to the big-money damage move.
Wrong. Bad. Fail.
When did I say that they were the only skill that matters ?? I SAID 1 really good (meaning powerfull) move. were talking about the most powerfull move that each class has. Never said it was the most important. I suggest you read first before putting words in my mouth. I know how to play my class, dont tell me I don't know what im talking about.
but using only asura... feh no fun really >_>, i mean is a 1 hit KO duels on pvp sometimes where is the fun there /hmm if u are a good champ u must know to use all ur skills not only the right for asura, asura is good for taking down big time enemies that are a super threat to u, as someone said
use asura in emergency only :P lols
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Flash Phoenix on November 21, 2007, 05:04:24 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
In order to stop an IC megged/suiken asura, you need toad, gr, deviling and over 20k HP. To stop Acid Demo, just use less vit and a mace for a weapon. I never said I don't use asura...and I never said I DO own suiken either. I have beaten plenty of people without asura and I beaten plenty of people with asura. If someone gets frozen due to my armor, their ass is getting asura'ed. My TSS and Occult damage are already deadly, I have hit people for 10k-15k using each move. Along with Blade Stop, most melee hits won't do shit to me o.O I know my class well enough, it would be nice to lag less to I don't get position bugged though -.- Asura is usually on my second set of hotkeys so I don't use it right away (unless its an asura match like against that Royaltowner nub)
I agree with you totally, im just saying, you can't really blame a suiken champ for using asura, cause its KO for their opponent.
If you think every job really only has one skill that matters, you don't know what you're talking about. Even if you're referring to the big-money damage move.
Wrong. Bad. Fail.
When did I say that they were the only skill that matters ?? I SAID 1 really good (meaning powerfull) move. were talking about the most powerfull move that each class has. Never said it was the most important. I suggest you read first before putting words in my mouth. I know how to play my class, dont tell me I don't know what im talking about.
but using only asura... feh no fun really >_>, i mean is a 1 hit KO duels on pvp sometimes where is the fun there /hmm if u are a good champ u must know to use all ur skills not only the right for asura, asura is good for taking down big time enemies that are a super threat to u, as someone said
use asura in emergency only :P lols
Right! your absolutely right! BUT here in lies the difference in duelng someone for FUN or Killing someone you dont like. Fun= no asura, unless you really need to. Mainly FO/OI/ and RPS for extra fun. Killing= ASURA that bastard!,../gg
Now These so called asura noobs are doing exactly that.. Killing people they don't like! or they need it to kill threatening people. It's not that they suck with their class, it's because they need to do it to win. And everybody wants to win. IMO a noob to the champ class , gets beaten because I steal his Spirit spheres and he/she has no idea why his asura diddn't work../gg Thats a noob.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Orelus on November 21, 2007, 05:12:33 pm
hahaah true ;)
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Flash Phoenix on November 21, 2007, 05:26:21 pm
<3 the siggie..Malice is wicked at making sigz. Im currently in line for one.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Orelus on November 21, 2007, 05:43:44 pm
<3 the siggie..Malice is wicked at making sigz. Im currently in line for one.
oh my siggie hehe yeah was made long time ago ^^ when animaRO forums were still up :police:
but i love the design he simply made it awesome <3
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: flyingdragon on November 21, 2007, 10:47:03 pm
Neither is good IMO.
DEX makes a champ stuck with only one weapon. Broken suiken usually means dead champs. INT allows you to switch between different weapons, which is quite useful in various circumstances. However it encourages asura-only champs. Some extreme sample I've encountered in PvP fit in the skill pattern Asura->Fura->Asura (pure LH3 heh). INT is not much of a problem in woe though because of the 40% reduction. Comparing these two, I prefer the INT version over the DEX version.
The best suiken IMO would be providing no fixed DEX or INT but some skills like improve concentration. It allows you to switch weapons while retaining IC.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Teo_live on November 21, 2007, 11:28:10 pm
Er... I hate asure champs yes boring as hell though an INT suiken doesnt only encourage Asure champs...
Im making a VIT champ (Yes +90 VIT woo) and if i get the chance to make one of the 2 Suikens... ill make the INT version since if i want high hit ill just add a phree card, faster casting ill add bez.
I think Champs bieng able to use Improved Concentration is just cheese, that should be an Archer only skill trait.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: ayin on November 21, 2007, 11:53:33 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
yah i AGREE with him ;)
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Teo_live on November 22, 2007, 12:30:18 am
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
yah i AGREE with him ;)
The Lord Knight and other charactors power move trait is a shame... Spirial peirce is the best option because there is only 1 LK SQI weapon (which Lo and Behold is a very heavy 1 handed spear). Blame the "noob skills" to SQI weapons, not the actual skills themselves.
Im abit frustrated that if i want a SQI weapon on a Knight i need to be a Spear knight, if i want to have a SQI weapon on Stalker i need to be a Bow Stalker etcetc. Where is the diversity in that?
If you want less one hit wonder nooby skills then there needs to be more ALTERNATIVES for other less common builds (eg an SQI two hand sword, SQI Rogue dagger/sword, SQI Crusader Two handed spear etc)
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: KnockedX_XOut on November 22, 2007, 12:40:36 am
besides 1 hit asura strike kills, a champ can easily FO then body relo away then FO and repeat until target is finished
wont even get scratched
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: ayin on November 22, 2007, 01:57:37 am
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
yah i AGREE with him ;)
The Lord Knight and other charactors power move trait is a shame... Spirial peirce is the best option because there is only 1 LK SQI weapon (which Lo and Behold is a very heavy 1 handed spear). Blame the "noob skills" to SQI weapons, not the actual skills themselves.
Im abit frustrated that if i want a SQI weapon on a Knight i need to be a Spear knight, if i want to have a SQI weapon on Stalker i need to be a Bow Stalker etcetc. Where is the diversity in that?
If you want less one hit wonder nooby skills then there needs to be more ALTERNATIVES for other less common builds (eg an SQI two hand sword, SQI Rogue dagger/sword, SQI Crusader Two handed spear etc)
easy bro are you angry or something i just said i agree plox
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: dalu on November 22, 2007, 02:48:36 am
XD in words every thing easy , its depends how u play , what u using , and whom ur enemy GG.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: darkangel14 on November 22, 2007, 08:49:11 am
all i think is suiken is good wen killing ;D ;D /rice
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Rain on November 22, 2007, 09:39:08 am
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
well said, and for those of you who complain about a champ using asura, then gtfo of pvp, its a skill, its in the game it can be used, shoudlnt get shot down just because you nubs are to stupid to realize asura's damage can be easily reduced with the correct gear:: and dex suiken > int suiken....
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: DreamerP on November 22, 2007, 05:30:40 pm
DEX FTW
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Teo_live on November 22, 2007, 08:38:12 pm
Spear of Ice, Spiral pierce, Soul Break, Acid demonstration..ect. you get the Idea. Yet Champs are the only ones who get called noobs for using their powerfull move.. And its not a spammable skill. Acid Demonstration is a spammable skill, way more so then asura. It takes time to refill your SP. so if you don;t die in 1 asura, chances are you'll win the fight. And bomberwill, your a champ are you not??!! Dont tell me you don't use asura to kill people, cause i've seen you do it. All im saying is, Champs were ment to be Big hitters. No sense calling suiken champs noobs for using their powerfull move. Otherwise every creator should be called noobs for using AD to kill people.
yah i AGREE with him ;)
The Lord Knight and other charactors power move trait is a shame... Spirial peirce is the best option because there is only 1 LK SQI weapon (which Lo and Behold is a very heavy 1 handed spear). Blame the "noob skills" to SQI weapons, not the actual skills themselves.
Im abit frustrated that if i want a SQI weapon on a Knight i need to be a Spear knight, if i want to have a SQI weapon on Stalker i need to be a Bow Stalker etcetc. Where is the diversity in that?
If you want less one hit wonder nooby skills then there needs to be more ALTERNATIVES for other less common builds (eg an SQI two hand sword, SQI Rogue dagger/sword, SQI Crusader Two handed spear etc)
easy bro are you angry or something i just said i agree plox
Er... no
If i was angry I WOULDNT BE TALKING SO DOCILE FFS ITS JUST ILL BE TALKING LIKE THIS U MOTHER F#### PIECE OF RETARDED SH## GO F### A TREE OR SOMTHING ZOMG IMA F### KILL U SON OF A
Ahum... yeah >.> Angry mode FTW :laugh:
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: lugsy on November 22, 2007, 09:57:35 pm
well said, and for those of you who complain about a champ using asura, then gtfo of pvp, its a skill, its in the game it can be used, shoudlnt get shot down just because you nubs are to stupid to realize asura's damage can be easily reduced with the correct gear:: and dex suiken > int suiken....
When was last time you were in pvp? lol. A one meg'd Champ that's not in full asura build can still pull out ~23-24k asura on toad and gr.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Rain on November 23, 2007, 07:37:22 am
well said, and for those of you who complain about a champ using asura, then gtfo of pvp, its a skill, its in the game it can be used, shoudlnt get shot down just because you nubs are to stupid to realize asura's damage can be easily reduced with the correct gear:: and dex suiken > int suiken....
When was last time you were in pvp? lol. A one meg'd Champ that's not in full asura build can still pull out ~23-24k asura on toad and gr.
well i dont use a gr on suiken since last time i checked it was water property unless it was changed in the nerf, but water armor, marse garment, toad valk, dl shoes... and add some vit..... vit adds def...which def can reduce damage of asura.. and for non suiken...gr,dev,toad,vit...
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Pity on November 23, 2007, 10:35:27 am
I hate you all, the ones that say asura and such are skills, then when your asses get edped all you can say is "LMFAO EDP NOOB CUM BAK WITH NO EDP I OWNZ JUU." Asura is a full power move and consumes an item, gj, edp is a full power move and consumes and item, a bottle, AD is basically the same concept as well. Wait what are the classes that everyone gets on to "pwn" people with? I thought so, be glad you have those skills and stop complaining about things you use to the fullest as well.
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: darkangel14 on November 23, 2007, 04:10:40 pm
they said asura is for noob champs, they dont realize its a skill of a champ to kill?? ??? >:(
Title: Re: which is better suiken DEX or INT??
Post by: Teo_live on November 23, 2007, 10:00:33 pm
I guess ill be the only Non-Asure champ out there WOOOOO