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Title: Rod+10??
Post by: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 12:30:34 pm

Does Rod+10 affect magical damage greatly???

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: dalu on February 10, 2008, 12:32:34 pm

NOpe, only int and Magic atk %

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: LostLimit on February 10, 2008, 01:29:55 pm

The +10 is only for melee damage.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: rilla. on February 10, 2008, 01:34:37 pm

basically, just for looks

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 03:18:50 pm

So is quadralupe dexterious rod+10 considered as a good weapon??

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: LostLimit on February 10, 2008, 03:40:38 pm

Since you don't have doppels on it, your aspd is really low, which means you'll wack extremely slow. So the +10 wouldn't make much of a difference. Unless you already have a +10 rod, I don't suggest you buying one just to slot 4 drops.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 04:19:55 pm

Quote from: LostLimit on February 10, 2008, 03:40:38 pm

Since you don't have doppels on it, your aspd is really low, which means you'll wack extremely slow. So the +10 wouldn't make much of a difference. Unless you already have a +10 rod, I don't suggest you buying one just to slot 4 drops.

I'm not building a melee character. I've never seen a wizard/sage/soul linker hitting enemy with rod.
If you mean something else be please to correct me.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Frank on February 10, 2008, 05:01:18 pm

 Lost is advising against buying a +10 rod to slot drop cards into.
The upgrade bonus does not effect esma damage.

 So unless you already have a +10 rod in kafra, don't bother buying one from other players.
Instead, go buy a normal rod for 2kish and slot it.

 Though I would personally suggest going to +10 as its easier to resell.
Also, dex survivor rod>quad dex rod. Costs 400k-500k more though.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 07:34:32 pm

I saw some chars able to do instant cast which I really WANT that. Do you think they're using quadralupe dexterious rod??

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: LostLimit on February 10, 2008, 07:54:46 pm

They could be using other dex gears such as SQI, stemworm, gargoyle, stings, celebs. But 4x drop rod does help getting you to IC.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Frank on February 10, 2008, 08:04:06 pm

 Instant cast can be achieved in two ways.

1. A base total of 150 dex
Linkers have a job bonus of 12 dex at job level 50 so- 12 dex
99 possible status points put into dex- 99
Kahos- 20 dex
Monsoon garment- 5 dex
Moonlight/Gargoyle shoes- 5 dex
Rocker card- 1 dex
Quad dex rod/ dex survivor rod- 4 dex
x2 sting gloves/celebs- 10 dex

 Total- 156 dex
So your free to put less points into dex/or switch a few pieces of equipment off.
(Note that sting brys give +9 dex for each one, so its possible to get 164 dex at most without using status foods/concentration box/other spell buffs)
Status foods give 1-10 dex and last for 30 minutes, they disappear upon death
Box of concentration gives +3 dex and lasts for one minute
Possible player buffs that increase dex include but are not limited to blessing- +10 dex for a short period of time. The guardian angel for extended classes also grant a level 10 blessing upon leveling up.

2. Cast reductions
x2 berze accessories
x1 dark illusion
Song of Bragi- Bard skill
 
 With all three, you can hit ic.

As a linker though, you'll do fine without instant cast.
For slow moving monsters like stings; use estin for pushback then esma. Rinse and repeat.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
 As Lost said, +4 more dex helps. But ic is an expensive thing to get for those new to the game.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 08:11:04 pm

Quote from: Frank on February 10, 2008, 08:04:06 pm

Instant cast can be achieved in two ways.

1. A base total of 150 dex
Linkers have a job bonus of 12 dex at job level 50 so- 12 dex
99 possible status points put into dex- 99
Kahos- 20 dex
Monsoon garment- 5 dex
Moonlight/Gargoyle shoes- 5 dex
Rocker card- 1 dex
Quad dex rod/ dex survivor rod- 4 dex
x2 sting gloves/celebs- 10 dex

 Total- 156 dex
So your free to put less points into dex/or switch a few pieces of equipment off.
(Note that sting brys give +9 dex for each one, so its possible to get 164 dex at most without using status foods/concentration box/other spell buffs)
Status foods give 1-10 dex and last for 30 minutes, they disappear upon death
Box of concentration gives +3 dex and lasts for one minute
Possible player buffs that increase dex include but are not limited to blessing- +10 dex for a short period of time. The guardian angel for extended classes also grant a level 10 blessing upon leveling up.

2. Cast reductions
x2 berze accessories
x1 dark illusion
Song of Bragi- Bard skill
 
 With all three, you can hit ic.

As a linker though, you'll do fine without instant cast.
For slow moving monsters like stings; use estin for pushback then esma. Rinse and repeat.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
 As Lost said, +4 more dex helps. But ic is an expensive thing to get for those new to the game.

Hey Frank. You're very wonderful. You list every details and write it simply.
Thank you so much for the information :D

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: levin on February 10, 2008, 09:27:18 pm

Quote from: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 07:34:32 pm

I saw some chars able to do instant cast which I really WANT that. Do you think they're using quadralupe dexterious rod??

prolly they'll be using a DDdd rod which means 2 doppel card an 2 drop card (unless they're sill a wiz)

later on if ur really planning to get a DDdd rod
i would advice u to get a +10 though
just for the value of it (u can buy a normal rod and ask a ws friend to upgrade for u, im willing to help ya if u want ^^ just pm me)

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 09:39:07 pm

Quote from: levin on February 10, 2008, 09:27:18 pm

Quote from: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 07:34:32 pm

I saw some chars able to do instant cast which I really WANT that. Do you think they're using quadralupe dexterious rod??

prolly they'll be using a DDdd rod which means 2 doppel card an 2 drop card (unless they're sill a wiz)

later on if ur really planning to get a DDdd rod
i would advice u to get a +10 though
just for the value of it (u can buy a normal rod and ask a ws friend to upgrade for u, im willing to help ya if u want ^^ just pm me)

Hey, I didn't know that doppel card decreases cast time!!!! I thought it was for attacking only.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Frank on February 10, 2008, 09:46:42 pm

 Attack speed decreases casting delay.
So dopples help decrease cast delay, not casting itself.

 Casting delay is that small period of time where your unable to cast a spell after already casting one.
Its more noticeable in spells such as storm gust.

 Dopples= win
DDdd rod on the other hand is somewhat of a waste. If anything, make a DDdrakex rod so it has a higher resell value/more use.
Though dopples on a rod is a waste in itself unless your pursuing a specific type of build.
Also, soul linkers have very short casting delays so its very noticeable.

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: Sapphirion on February 11, 2008, 12:16:04 am

err...aspd doesnt affect cast time only dex does

Title: Re: Rod+10??
Post by: levin on February 11, 2008, 05:31:38 am

Quote from: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 09:39:07 pm

Quote from: levin on February 10, 2008, 09:27:18 pm

Quote from: Mei-chan on February 10, 2008, 07:34:32 pm

I saw some chars able to do instant cast which I really WANT that. Do you think they're using quadralupe dexterious rod??

prolly they'll be using a DDdd rod which means 2 doppel card an 2 drop card (unless they're sill a wiz)

later on if ur really planning to get a DDdd rod
i would advice u to get a +10 though
just for the value of it (u can buy a normal rod and ask a ws friend to upgrade for u, im willing to help ya if u want ^^ just pm me)

Hey, I didn't know that doppel card decreases cast time!!!! I thought it was for attacking only.

nope doppel don't decrease cast time but cast delay like what frank have said (its very good for wiz class as they can spam JT)

i was refering to hwiz and some priest which uses DDdd rod as to reduce thier cast delay

Quote from: Frank on February 10, 2008, 09:46:42 pm

  Casting delay is that small period of time where your unable to cast a spell after already casting one.
Its more noticeable in spells such as storm gust.

umm if im not wrong sg has a 5sec cast delay which is independant from aspd
not sure bout it though =/