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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: sarita on October 30, 2012, 03:28:33 am

Title: PVP CHANGE
Post by: sarita on October 30, 2012, 03:28:33 am
I need to know will pvp remain the way it is forever or a change may be implemented on it? If there's change what type of change will it be and Very eager to know when it gonna take place?
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: L'Fluffy on October 30, 2012, 05:21:08 am
oh boy... not again..

I think Fidelis replied to this question numerous times already...

edit:
found it
Quote from: http://www.anesisro.com/forums/index.php/topic,117583.90.html
The point is: for me, PvP looks not really entertaining right now. It's just a bunch of elitists (i.e. you people) with your potions who want to kill other players no matter what. Of course PvP is about killing and stuff, but it's no fun if the only way to compete is to have a Kafra clip and lots of cakes or white potions stacked in your storage to use, not even talking about the SQIs.
Also, PvP is not the most important thing about a Ragnarok server. It's part of the whole deal, so I also want to make it available to all players, because right now it's just a playing ground for you guys. Furthermore, I don't endorse the way some people handle PvP at all: creating novices to talk shit, throwing around personal insults and instigating drama, carrying it out on the forums. Sorry, but this all just shows that you guys are not mature enough for something as simple as that.

Quote from: http://www.anesisro.com/forums/index.php/topic,117583.90.html
@sarita: Don't you see that we're going in circles? You're always asking and complaining about the same things, and I'm always giving you the same response? What do you want to hear from me? I understand very well that you don't like it the way it is right now, I understand very well that you just want to have your potting enabled again so you can fight against the mean other potters and gangers, I understand very well that you hate to adapt to change when it means that you become "weaker", I understand very well that you feel that champ is now useless. I understand very well that you're trying to convince me that PvP is the most important thing as it heavily affects the economy.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Najara on October 30, 2012, 06:22:51 am
The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: thephi on October 30, 2012, 11:08:47 am
The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.
This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Blu Ray on October 30, 2012, 12:31:46 pm
The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.
This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.
SP is supposed to be a way to limit how you use skills to keep things balanced. Unlimited SP by item spamming with no delay is pretty much the same as not having SP at all, thus It defeats the purpose of having SP. Having delay on SP items makes SP work the way It's supposed to work, so how exacly does It defeats the purpose of skills?

You cry too much buddy, It's about time you either get used to the new PvP or just join another server.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Salamander on October 30, 2012, 12:35:50 pm
U should also apologize for effing up pvp..

Or how about you tell Fidelis to apologize, because he took the original idea and screwed it up (no offense).
This pretty much and the PvP discussion our hands where tied.   :(
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: thephi on October 30, 2012, 12:42:00 pm
The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.
This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.
SP is supposed to be a way to limit how you use skills to keep things balanced. Unlimited SP by item spamming with no delay is pretty much the same as not having SP at all, thus It defeats the purpose of having SP. Having delay on SP items makes SP work the way It's supposed to work, so how exacly does It defeats the purpose of skills?

You cry too much buddy, It's about time you either get used to the new PvP or just join another server.
ya i cry so much? Im trying to help this server and comments like yours only hurt the server so why dont you find a different server yourself?
Your SP assumption is completely wrong how the hell does that make pvp balance? You my friend are retarded. Please dont post again. Lmao
You don't even pvp last time i check. Which supports Najara comment above how people who dont pvp make retarded suggestions.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: lesner_xx on October 30, 2012, 12:55:39 pm
I think this is the right time to change pvp especially the SP delay and map. Noone goes there anymore so it definately need a change if it's not been changed it will be like dead place as i mostly see it. Also i think HP delay is good it doesn't need to be changed but SP delay needs to be changed as most of the player complain same and even map which makes difficult to play with. If no change has been implemented it will be like a slap towards all the players who were after it all the time without proper decision or action.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: SukiChii on October 30, 2012, 03:57:21 pm
I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: thephi on October 30, 2012, 04:02:43 pm
I think this is the right time to change pvp especially the SP delay and map. Noone goes there anymore so it definately need a change if it's not been changed it will be like dead place as i mostly see it. Also i think HP delay is good it doesn't need to be changed but SP delay needs to be changed as most of the player complain same and even map which makes difficult to play with. If no change has been implemented it will be like a slap towards all the players who were after it all the time without proper decision or action.
Agree they tried to change and fix pvp but they failed. Its time to change pvp back.
Romney2012
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Noobie-Won on October 30, 2012, 05:45:17 pm
The only thing that I personally didn't like about PVP is the map, I've honestly no idea who their right mind supported to switch public for airship, but it were obviously players that don't even PVP. From what I remember, everyone inside the map was always complaining about having difficulties with aiming because tables, chairs and candles were being in the way. They were right.

You're probably referring to the pot delay, though. That's just something you just need to get used to. You will some day, young grasshopper.
This ^ and
They need to fix pvp. They really need to add no delay on sp it really defeats the purpose of skills.
SP is supposed to be a way to limit how you use skills to keep things balanced. Unlimited SP by item spamming with no delay is pretty much the same as not having SP at all, thus It defeats the purpose of having SP. Having delay on SP items makes SP work the way It's supposed to work, so how exacly does It defeats the purpose of skills?

You cry too much buddy, It's about time you either get used to the new PvP or just join another server.
ya i cry so much? Im trying to help this server and comments like yours only hurt the server so why dont you find a different server yourself?
Your SP assumption is completely wrong how the hell does that make pvp balance? You my friend are retarded. Please dont post again. Lmao
You don't even pvp last time i check. Which supports Najara comment above how people who dont pvp make retarded suggestions.
The usage of sp is how the original use of skills were limited. We are a low rate server with the ability to get gj by the shit-tons. Which then makes champs an over abused class because the "one hit" asura is now being spammed. It dumps all your sp as a limiter of how often it can be used, instead of using 5 sp so it can be used numerous times back to back. I don't see why in their right minds they'd fix that. I think it's a perfectly good idea and should remain.

It's retarded to believe it shouldn't be in place. Open your eyes to other classes and rely on other means then just skill spamming. Infact learn some skill, though I know that's asking a lot.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Dangletsbang on October 30, 2012, 09:22:58 pm
Airship has so much history though. <3
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4633/55769381.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/55769381.jpg/)

Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: :Momoko: on October 30, 2012, 09:51:07 pm
i would also like public or atleast a smaller map lol, Airship highly supports Prebuffers anyways, not like anyone checks the whole map for clocked buffers, as for the SP delay im kinda in the middle of bringing it back to normal and keeping it the same, if we bring it back to normal it only supports the champ class and classes that spam skills left and right, although pvp had more life wen people decided the Top Dog was the one that can spam cakes the fastest /heh either way

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.

i agree with this 100%

Also how about that xx Seconds cooldown for Asura /heh /inb4angrychampmob
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Star Star on October 30, 2012, 11:09:55 pm
The cooldown idea is fine, just that people from the respective class who have utmost disadvantage are over-exaggerating it.
The cooldown timing is just too harsh in my opinion.
The real problem is that not enough testing has been done, namely the different cooldown timing.

Anyway,
I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.
So let's give them some time. /ok
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Kain on October 30, 2012, 11:16:31 pm
Airship has so much history though. <3
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4633/55769381.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/55769381.jpg/)



I don't know why people liked airship so much back then, but I do know why they hate it now. There's no public pvp to return to so they're stuck in an obstacle filled room forever.
Anyway I hate the cooldown idea. I play a ninja so it takes some time to get their health down, but they just slowly heal it up. Kind of pointless for me either way honestly.

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: wolfthegreat on October 30, 2012, 11:30:10 pm
ya i cry so much? Im trying to help this server and comments like yours only hurt the server so why dont you find a different server yourself?
Your SP assumption is completely wrong how the hell does that make pvp balance? You my friend are retarded. Please dont post again. Lmao
You don't even pvp last time i check. Which supports Najara comment above how people who dont pvp make retarded suggestions.

And man if you want to know why SQI nerf was so bad... Coz for example some people who don't use djinn make suggestion... Same for the rest of the SQIs so in the end, it eff up the entire SQI when implemented... Don't blame GMs... Blame people who make retarded suggestion not knowing what the heck they're saying  :police: Anyway I think SQI nerf is complete now... Pretty much more balanced...

To be honest I don't PVP much but... I do go in from time to time and play around... And yes... Honestly speaking, the airship is really bad compared to the old one :)

I think we have more important issues that need to be fix before PvP.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: sarita on October 31, 2012, 12:32:11 am
I too think SP delay along with air ship is the problem and cause why people don't want to pvp back like they use to be before.
As i read this thread's post i figure out that people saying give them time to solve out other things well I definately agree that Please give GM's time to sort out other things before going for only pvp but that doesn't mean that pvp things does not need attention to bother or change it definately needs change.

As far is SP delay and due to it spamming is concern it's still same people who can afford blue pots can spam well and people who use to rely on GJ's are facing problem here so thing which i was trying to explain from this long is if there's no change made to pvp then at least reduce the price for blue pots from NPC's who selling them like to 500 or 800 or something which balance that as things are taken into different matter when we ask for Stop SP Delay thing This will clear the idea about people thinking that Reducing Sp delay will boost towards champ spamming asura skill again and again well it's not only champ class we talking about it's other classes too keep in mind LK's Spiral pierce? HW spamming JT or Storm Gust? i feel real bad when only one class is taken into consideration despite there's several class which are affected due to this.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: singer of strange songs on October 31, 2012, 12:40:27 am
Please lock this fucking thread now.
Title: Re: PVP CHANGE
Post by: Hashtag on October 31, 2012, 01:59:51 am
I'm going to lock this thread. I'm sure once the server gets settled again we can bring this topic back into focus but right now I think we've got some other things we need to focus on more.