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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Razer on July 17, 2012, 03:02:16 pm

Title: Closed.
Post by: Razer on July 17, 2012, 03:02:16 pm
I havent been following the forums much. Just come by to check my Pms ,since I get email alerts for those. How is the server doing ? Which guilds apart from Divinity form the other formidable War guilds ? I was on the other day and other than some guy monologue-ing the main chat - there wasnt much to be seen.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Axle~ on July 17, 2012, 04:24:07 pm
Not great. The Trans Woe scene is dying out quite a bit, with only maybe two or three guilds in play? Non-trans is doing okay with  two or three major guilds, and a few smaller ones competing. There've also been a few newer players recently that I've met, which is always a good thing.

A few people left after QQ'ing about their SQIs, but they'll probably be back once discussions are done. The server population is steady at around 180-200 people on at most times I'm online, which really isn't great. The GM event is interesting, but quite a few people don't seem to be participating. All in all, not great.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: thephi on July 17, 2012, 04:42:50 pm
Lmao it's pretty obvious the server isnt doing great. Trans woe is dead. Nontrans has 2-3 major guilds woeing. A major part of the above is I think hope changed to nt. also pvp is dead gm tried to modify it a tab and then no one like it bit but like 5 non regular pvp goers and the gm (just Fidelis) agreed to the change. Announcements and events are unheard of. Just the fw event and a few mini event nothing big since Christmas. It's so bad couple weeks ago I saw fw and it was mostly npc vs npc. That's what the server has been like when you were gone.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: SukiChii on July 17, 2012, 06:25:57 pm
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: 4n0nym0u5 on July 17, 2012, 11:26:18 pm
Trans WoE barely has any life left, NT WoE is lively, lowest population drop I've seen was 168 about 4-6 days ago, economy still the same 40m mvp cards 8). Faction wars only thing keeping me alive and prison socializing.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 17, 2012, 11:41:16 pm
Pretty much what everyone said. This server is dieing, and honestly can't be saved in its current state unless the members and staff start to work together; and in order for that to happen, they cant be afraid of change/experimenting (and learn to separate the bullshit from the facts). Then maybe aRO can be brought back on its feet, just maybe.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Axle~ on July 18, 2012, 12:02:03 am
Pretty much what everyone said. This server is dieing, and honestly can't be saved in its current state unless the members and staff start to work together; and in order for that to happen, they cant be afraid of change/experimenting (and learn to separate the bullshit from the facts). Then maybe aRO can be brought back on its feet, just maybe.
'Cept the second they change anything, people start to kick and scream.

It's like daycare.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 18, 2012, 12:31:35 am
And this is why the GM's have to avoid those people, because it's a fact (not an excuse), that you can't please 100% of the community with change. In order for change to happen, they must take action regardless.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 18, 2012, 07:09:56 am
Changes to existing systems will always create problems in any organization or game however has there been any new content ? I remember there were the GM recruitments going on - So I am guessing there is no adept coder or is it an adept coder who is primarily lacking motivation .

I guess RO as a whole is fading out eh ? To make the server run they would probably have to change the original game.
I tried iRO for a few months - The lag was annoying, even if the bots were tolerable. The Classic server is cool and stuff but somehow it no longer feels the same as RO did in Beta. Also, I guess the concept of leaving machines on for vending annoys me .
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: thephi on July 18, 2012, 07:49:12 am
And this is why the GM's have to avoid those people, because it's a fact (not an excuse), that you can't please 100% of the community with change. In order for change to happen, they must take action regardless.
Except the main People complaining are the majority of the server hence why population is dropping just blame the doc who don't listen working carelessly.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: MaO on July 18, 2012, 08:14:21 am
/hmm

Changes......./?

I dont see your VVS weapon that I really need /meh

Sell me some elemental damascus /kis

Economy really sucks this days :(

Forum community is not that active anymore. /sigh

 :police:

Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 18, 2012, 10:02:07 am
Hehe Hello Rose , Glad to see you're still around /kis
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: MaO on July 18, 2012, 05:06:56 pm
Hello PowerGod /kis

I just came back a month now.

Got shocked for all the changes made (Server, Website, In-Game, Population)

And my SQI access gone as well /sob

I got lose somehow in the game  :'(

Anyway I still meet some new players in-game.

 :police:
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: sarita on July 19, 2012, 12:09:12 am
Pretty much what everyone said. This server is dieing, and honestly can't be saved in its current state unless the members and staff start to work together; and in order for that to happen, they cant be afraid of change/experimenting (and learn to separate the bullshit from the facts). Then maybe aRO can be brought back on its feet, just maybe.






The fact is GM never gave it try through Test server or something like that so ppl will generally have problem with that also There are certain thing which are not known by ppl like Phi said PPL who don't go pvp either play there regularly are giving false idea of making it worse and only 1 Gm supporting it  And the resulls are seen it's DEAD still ppl are not allowed to talk or discuss thing  They are force to adapt change so what u think the future of this server?  Time is the main thing Which matters lot both in RL and this Server It's taking much time to change certain aspect of In game thing i m not saying that GM are not doing anything the thing is they taking much time to upgrade certain things which lack according to me for this server.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Axle~ on July 19, 2012, 03:26:28 am
Sarita, that's a complete double standard.

You want changes to occur often and quickly, yet you want the ability to give input before they're put into place. Not only that, but you want them to test everything out extensively before they change it.

1)Collecting and sorting through player input take a whole crapload of time until you find something actually feasible to use.

2)Test servers take;
a)Time to set up
b)Time to select proper testers
c)An investment of time to test said changes

Fortunately the PvP change is making it extremely easy for me to sell my Cake and Ygg's. You have to mellow a bit and find the good in a situation. Since discussions have been open for a while now on both the topics of PVP, and SQI junk, it's clear the GM team has heard that people are unsatisfied, and are trying to rectify that.

Anyways Razer, you should get back into the Trans-Woe scene someday. 
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 19, 2012, 05:30:23 am
I wouldn't know about WoE/PvP but PvE pretty much your with yourself or 1-2 players.
I kind of think we need more content and redo the Izlude dungeon turn in NPCs since they don't get used very often(I presume).
The GMs are also fleshing out headgear quest but I have no clue when that will be finish.
The last content they're working on is the Daily Quest but yeah still in the works.
I'm not sure what is taking so long but we kind of need newbie friendly fixes asap.

The newest thing they add was Prontera Assualt which has been mention in this theard. I heard a lot of the time needed for PA was from coding the systems to make it work.
The plus side of this is GM Talis said they can make more interesting quests involving PvP and NPCs systems.
I recommend anyone that hasn't try PA to give it a shot since it's pretty neat and they said they are going make it better.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: sarita on July 19, 2012, 05:37:50 am
Sarita, that's a complete double standard.

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That's not double standard it's about the thing and reality ingame.

You want changes to occur often and quickly, yet you want the ability to give input before they're put into place. Not only that, but you want them to test everything out extensively before they change it.

1)Collecting and sorting through player input take a whole crapload of time until you find something actually feasible to use.

2)Test servers take;
a)Time to set up
b)Time to select proper testers
c)An investment of time to test said changes

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Rather then implementing something major you don't see the point of at least try to test something out? i agree that test server take time but at least ppl will not be disatisfied with it and noone can say that we didn't got chance to Test our sqi!! it's only the thing which make only ppl fear to lose the sqi stats which i see they certainly have problem in it. Also there are many ppl who never come often in forums also some who never joined forums or posted anything the idea for Test server will help them.



Fortunately the PvP change is making it extremely easy for me to sell my Cake and Ygg's. You have to mellow a bit and find the good in a situation. Since discussions have been open for a while now on both the topics of PVP, and SQI junk, it's clear the GM team has heard that people are unsatisfied, and are trying to rectify that.

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you Guys Wanna Play PVP ? or only want to Earn zeny by selling Hp or SP Items which indirectly affecting PvP? Well now after this it's true ppl who don't pvp making this worse for earning zeny u want SP, HP Delay?  thought idea was to join new comer? stop ganging?  And If u say discussion are open Please Please just go read that Thread where u can only discuss things with /support , /Nosupport this is what called discussion !!!! other then that if u say anything it's been deleted by GM and that;s true only group of certain ppl i don't knw how many but like 5 or 7 who never i see pvp always get supported by GM for making it more worse Also if u say so it's better not to talk just check pvp population and see the difference. Now i m done with this here Hope you understand what certain ppl trying to explain. 
Anyways Razer, you should get back into the Trans-Woe scene someday.

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I would only say Please check out actual thing in game.

Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: singer of strange songs on July 19, 2012, 08:21:13 am
Lol.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Talis on July 19, 2012, 10:09:02 am
Not gonna get into the whole drama but:

We do have a test server, but only staff gets to use it.

We had a public test server at some point, but it did more harm than good. Once people get the nifty toys they've been wanting on the main server in a matter of minutes on the test server, they tend to PVP / Play the test server for about a week, and then quit on both main and testserver and we loose a player.

Serious. We had a testserver, everyone would get SQI's etc, and then just PVP for a few days. Then they quit. It seems to me, to have a testserver not do that, you have to withhold either content or gear, and in both cases it then can not be used to test something under normal conditions. The only way I can see a testserver working is if it's extremely focussed testing on one specific thing only with a million restrictions, but at that point the majority probably wouldn't even want to test.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 19, 2012, 10:18:41 am
The staff is smaller then the player base.
I think you might be wrong people would test builds and equipment then try to get these in main server, but yeah I might be wrong since smaller population since the last time we had a public test server.
If you made it available for the people that been here awhile instead making it open for everyone then we might get testing done in a quickie.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Axle~ on July 19, 2012, 10:24:21 am
Lol.
Yeah, pretty much.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 19, 2012, 11:41:33 am
@Alex - Nah , RO bores me now . I tried seeking populated servers with something different to do. I would play iRO but the annoying Aegis lag gets to me even if I can tolerate the bots on that server and absence of P server goodies such as Autotrade. Exp wise iRO Valkyrie seems faster than the aRO, Farming is more meaningful too despite the presence of bots. I can get quite fast cast so I dont really miss IC from p Servers and well they have over 190 aspd already. Its a shame Renewal never made it to P servers.

I kind of think we need more content and redo the Izlude dungeon turn in NPCs since they don't get used very often(I presume).
Yea, I had written a redo for that , never got noted . I had written a lot of detailed stuff for Biblian . Lol.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Aazher on July 19, 2012, 11:42:57 am
RO as a whole definitely isn't dying out. Just look at the "Other" server.

Imo aRO should've just merged with it...but now there's really not much to offer them that would even want a merge in the first place, so yar.

The band will keep playing till ze end. /salut  :police:
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 19, 2012, 11:46:27 am
A merge wouldn't have happened to begin with, because that's the whole reason why they split to begin with. Two sides that didn't agree with each other both got what they wanted. It just so happens that the other side won the battle and the war.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 19, 2012, 02:38:58 pm
A merge isnt possible. It would cause ingame issues for players from both sides. For example they wont welcome the bazillions of zeny aRO players have, combined with dozens of rare cards thanks to bulks of OCAs from successive events. And aRO wont welcome their system , skill nerfs etc. It would have probably worked a few years ago but not now.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: SukiChii on July 19, 2012, 05:13:58 pm
They're doing much better than us, why would they want to merge?
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 19, 2012, 09:29:26 pm
@Alex - Nah , RO bores me now . I tried seeking populated servers with something different to do. I would play iRO but the annoying Aegis lag gets to me even if I can tolerate the bots on that server and absence of P server goodies such as Autotrade. Exp wise iRO Valkyrie seems faster than the aRO, Farming is more meaningful too despite the presence of bots. I can get quite fast cast so I dont really miss IC from p Servers and well they have over 190 aspd already. Its a shame Renewal never made it to P servers.

I kind of think we need more content and redo the Izlude dungeon turn in NPCs since they don't get used very often(I presume).
Yea, I had written a redo for that , never got noted . I had written a lot of detailed stuff for Biblian . Lol.
yeah...pretty easy to get 99 on there. The lag is probably the only thing that keep me from staying there.

edit. where is thread since I support changing it or should someone start a new one?
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 20, 2012, 05:22:17 am
edit. where is thread since I support changing it or should someone start a new one?
Removed it. Wouldnt encourage anyone to make one. Its pointless.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 20, 2012, 03:42:35 pm
edit. where is thread since I support changing it or should someone start a new one?
Removed it. Wouldnt encourage anyone to make one. Its pointless.
by that logic everything is pointless  :D but yeah I kind of think it should be revamp or replace with Dailies(or let it be?).
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: yamirichard on July 21, 2012, 02:32:53 am
It's sad that many people used to ask for events and SQI's nerfing a lot

now, when GM implement it, they leave....  :'(
I don't know what to say anymore
*flipping table*
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Johnsu on July 21, 2012, 02:53:49 am
RO players in general live by a double standard. QQ for potless? No one used it. Nerd suiken? QQ people quit. Beef potting? QQ.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 21, 2012, 09:55:26 am
A merge wouldn't have happened to begin with, because that's the whole reason why they split to begin with. Two sides that didn't agree with each other both got what they wanted. It just so happens that the other side won the battle and the war.
Not wanting to take part in the whole drama either, but just saying, there never was a war or a battle between our two servers. It's solely the players who made drama about it, not the staff. The players were the only reason there ever was tension between the two servers (and maybe also some arrogant staff members on their side who, for some reason, kept posting here despite having their own forums). It was obviously their way to success to work on balancing the whole end-game deal with the MVP cards and SQIs right after splitting which NewAnimaRO and AnthemRO didn't do, and kind of the reason what kept new players away for such a long time. I personally don't have a problem with a few QQers leaving because of the current changes if that opens a way to new ideas (and hopefully also new players).

Talking about the merging: I don't understand how you want to merge two servers that went different ways for 5 years, which basically means that they're completely different servers. Merging just means, one server gives up, and the population all moves to the other server, which is nobody's intention here.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 21, 2012, 10:13:53 am
@Fidelis

"It just so happens that the other side won the battle and the war."

This was a figure of speech, wasn't literal, lol. ._.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 21, 2012, 10:24:09 am
Even if it was just a figure of speech in your case, a lot of players think that way. They think, just because we originated from the same server, and some old server owners, i.e. Black Talon and Debbie and Harken, didn't get along with each other due to legal/power/money issues, it means that there is an ongoing war between us who's better, but that's old stuff and we're a completely different team now anyway, and no one (from our side at least) has a reason to fight.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: super priest on July 23, 2012, 12:50:52 am
before more drama occurs, let me say this, dont live in the past people. move on into the future for everyone, the staff are doing that quite well which i like very much and some nice changes that not alot of server can think of because of "moving on".

Heck i rather have very small pop with decent incoming people that can actually handle differences and grow than have 1000+ players or vets (not freash vets) only where its impossible to doing anything different

sadly for me and probably others that might be impossible for people that can't give things a new try


also, think about what you are posting that attacks GM "bad work" and consider SOMEthings that GMs atleast improve on slowly
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Kabamaru on July 23, 2012, 06:35:18 am
I think that the players in the server are the main thing for the server to run. And when the population is high the server is at successes. Old players are highly needed because they teach the new players and motivate them to do better. All that was there in AnimaRO and begening of AnthemRO.

Non of it is in AnimusRO, Most players left new players come and hate it and leave did the GMs ever ask them selfs why? How come everything suddenly change to the point that everyone became a newbie facing a total different server, they worked hard on everything even those who donated wasted time here on things that changed and still changing. Even the support tickets takeing years with no answers  :-X

I wish for this server to rise again someday, but appearently this will never happen
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 23, 2012, 10:28:07 am
Here's a list of many factors that make servers good:
^ That's what makes a server good.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 23, 2012, 12:39:18 pm
The biggest factor needed is the Initiative to do anything.
Anyhow, this thread was just asking a description of the servers current state.
Dont know why it was termed drama.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: singer of strange songs on July 23, 2012, 01:24:45 pm
Every time a thread like this is made, people make comparisons with the sister server. Seeing as how they are doing much better and knowing we can be as good as them but have not improved during the split just frustrates players and QQ/rage quit ensues.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Johnsu on July 23, 2012, 03:14:13 pm
I think all the events are neat, but they became exploitable. I love this server, but with faction wars, everything else got put in fudelis's hands and one man can only do so much.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: singer of strange songs on July 23, 2012, 03:32:37 pm
I think all the events are neat, but they became exploitable. I love this server, but with faction wars, everything else got put in fudelis's hands and one man can only do so much.

He doesn't like working with others lol.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 23, 2012, 05:22:56 pm
Every time a thread like this is made, people make comparisons with the sister server. Seeing as how they are doing much better and knowing we can be as good as them but have not improved during the split just frustrates players and QQ/rage quit ensues.
Criticism isnt drama . Its important to learn from criticism. I am tired of actually using the term Sister server. However, many of the features that the other server does have were suggested way back in aRO even before they were implemented on the other server. Some of the features were quite basic in understanding. Quests, SQI redos(Not Brute nerfs), Events , mini games. There was never a shortage of content design in the suggestion area. If any of those ideas were not balanced - they could have always been adjusted by the coder as per his definition of game balance.

one man can only do so much.
One man can do quite a lot with eA Scripting actually. It basically depends on what you choose to use your time on. It is important to understand that all ideas are not great and your own superb idea might not appeal to others.Its important to use teamwork.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: singer of strange songs on July 23, 2012, 05:44:14 pm
Criticism isnt drama . Its important to learn from criticism.

Yes, but on a server like this, it's taken the wrong way sometimes and causes drama lol.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 23, 2012, 07:16:58 pm
one man can only do so much.
One man can do quite a lot with eA Scripting actually. It basically depends on what you choose to use your time on. It is important to understand that all ideas are not great and your own superb idea might not appeal to others.Its important to use teamwork.

Two heads is better than one, like I said earlier:

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Organized and Ragnarok-Fluent Game Masters (as in, the GM's combined, know every class/mechanics very well, another reason why there needs to be more mechanic gurus, one can't dictate everything).
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 24, 2012, 04:07:41 am
Are you guys done with bashing me now? It's not true what you said. I just prefer to realize my own ideas when it comes to quests, minigames, etc. instead of digging through the suggestions and implementing player A's idea, then getting yelled at because I didn't do it just exactly like player A hoped it would be.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 24, 2012, 06:04:06 am
Are you guys done with bashing me now? It's not true what you said. I just prefer to realize my own ideas when it comes to quests, minigames, etc. instead of digging through the suggestions and implementing player A's idea, then getting yelled at because I didn't do it just exactly like player A hoped it would be.
Disclaimer in suggestion forum saying you don't have to use there idea or implemented it they way they want?
I trow out a bunch of ideas but not one has got implemented but I will keep trowing more ideas and maybe one will be good enough someday.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 24, 2012, 08:02:46 am
I think the problem is not that there are only a few good suggestions, but rather that there are still too many suggestions, and lots of suggestions coming in all day, and I still haven't had the time to dig through all of them. I'm sure there are good ideas that are easy to implement, but I really haven't had the time to go through them thoroughly yet. @@
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 24, 2012, 10:43:58 am
@Fidelis

Then go through them. Or perhaps get 1 or 2 Game Masters to make it their jobs to organize the ideas and present them to the staff to approve or disapprove them. Since honestly, it seems almost as if 90% of the suggestions are completely ignored.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: singer of strange songs on July 24, 2012, 10:56:50 am
You'd have to start with the 30 or so in Awaiting Implementation first...
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 24, 2012, 02:37:57 pm
@Fidelis

Then go through them. Or perhaps get 1 or 2 Game Masters to make it their jobs to organize the ideas and present them to the staff to approve or disapprove them. Since honestly, it seems almost as if 90% of the suggestions are completely ignored.
Yes, as I said, I haven't had the time to do it yet. It doesn't help much to let other GMs do it, since I will ultimatively have to decide whether it's possible to code and beneficial for the server or not. It does not help either when players just keep posting suggestions without waiting for older ones to be accepted or declined; it's actually amazing how many suggestions players post here on this server.

You'd have to start with the 30 or so in Awaiting Implementation first...
Those I will have to re-evaluate anyway, as I feel that some of them might be outdated or not applicable.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: super priest on July 26, 2012, 04:11:35 pm
@Fidelis

Then go through them. Or perhaps get 1 or 2 Game Masters to make it their jobs to organize the ideas and present them to the staff to approve or disapprove them. Since honestly, it seems almost as if 90% of the suggestions are completely ignored.
Yes, as I said, I haven't had the time to do it yet. It doesn't help much to let other GMs do it, since I will ultimatively have to decide whether it's possible to code and beneficial for the server or not. It does not help either when players just keep posting suggestions without waiting for older ones to be accepted or declined; it's actually amazing how many suggestions players post here on this server.

You'd have to start with the 30 or so in Awaiting Implementation first...
Those I will have to re-evaluate anyway, as I feel that some of them might be outdated or not applicable.

finally i get to hear something like this for so long to understand that suggestion "is" looked at

but what wonders me is can't their be someone their to look at them and consider them and organize the suggestion with the player on the forum so when the person that organizes the suggestion can show you about it and all you could do while your doing your other work and such just say yes or can't be done?
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: cis_trans on July 29, 2012, 01:18:30 pm
Lots of talk, no action. Nothing new.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 30, 2012, 05:54:41 am
Lots of talk, no action. Nothing new.
Seriously, if you have nothing to say, leave. These comments are not welcome here, no matter how much time you've spent on this server in earlier times. Use your time to cure cancer or whatever, instead of keeping logging into these forums just to post derogative comments.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 30, 2012, 11:54:47 am
@Fidelis

While Trans's response wasn't exactly appropriate. It's not right to be kicking people out of the thread because it wasn't positive feedback. Feedback is feedback, the OP wanted to know how the server was doing, he will be delivered the truth according to the players that still play.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Fidelis on July 30, 2012, 12:38:31 pm
First of all, if you know Razer, you can guess that he knows well how the server is doing, and that one of the reason this thread was created was most likely due to drawing in the people pointing out flaws and the such. I could've simply locked this thread since I'm pretty sure that you are aware of the thousands of threads people have created, titled "HOW TO SAVE THE SERVER", "WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THE SERVER NEWBIE FRIENDLY", "WHAT HAPPENED" etc. It's all the same, and it's always the same people who post there. It's our decision to allow players to post or to keep threads open, keep that in mind, please.

Secondly:
according to the players that still play.
Exactly. And not according to some ghosts who keep haunting the forums with their condescending comments about the server.

Besides, I'm well aware that all of you people think we're doing a shitty job, and that you have to rub this "truth" into everyone's face.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Razer on July 30, 2012, 02:47:16 pm
I havent been following the forums much. Just come by to check my Pms ,since I get email alerts for those. How is the server doing ? Which guilds apart from Divinity form the other formidable War guilds ? I was on the other day and other than some guy monologue-ing the main chat - there wasnt much to be seen.
I am not playing the game . I have highlighted the bold for better understanding . I know whats going since there isnt much to guess - And that I read your announcements regularly. However, I do not know about the War scene hence the question was asked. It was answered ingame from Ex MotE players.

OP made July 18, Date today 31st July 2012.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 30, 2012, 04:56:21 pm
You don't even play but you want to know active woe guilds why?  ???
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on July 30, 2012, 05:15:32 pm
You don't even play but you want to know active woe guilds why?  ???

Because he could just ask somebody that still plays out of curiosity? \o.o/
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: -Solo- on July 30, 2012, 08:25:08 pm
Besides, I'm well aware that all of you people think we're doing a shitty job, and that you have to rub this "truth" into everyone's face.
Naw, I think they're saying it's mostly you. No offense.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Neetox on July 30, 2012, 10:16:00 pm
I thought Fidelis was the only GM around here? ???
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: The Mystic on July 31, 2012, 01:28:51 am
I thought Fidelis was the only GM around here? ???
You mean they aren't all the same person? jk
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Evilness45 on July 31, 2012, 02:25:04 am
I always assumed that Fidelis was simply more prone to discuss than others.
It does give the appearance that only him seems to care anymore though.
Title: Re: How is the server doing, WoE, PvE etc etc ?
Post by: Salamander on July 31, 2012, 09:06:05 am
No hating please  :police:
It doesn't really help anyone to place blame on one person.
I always assumed that Fidelis was simply more prone to discuss than others.

Yup

on-topic: I figure this thread has serve it's purpose hopefully it gets lock.