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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Razer on September 19, 2011, 02:56:30 pm
Title: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 19, 2011, 02:56:30 pm
It feels equal to the old rate that we had before it was buffed. My question - is everyone else feeling it ? I did a lot of testing recently to back my data. And if it was changed (Which I dont mind) - why was the drop rate change not announced with the other stuff during the maintainence ?
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Najara on September 19, 2011, 03:03:49 pm
Yeah, I noticed but just like you said; nothing has been mentioned about it by the GMs.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 19, 2011, 03:05:01 pm
There is no concept of change log anymore as well. I had to find the change log via search - It was locked and un-stickied way back in Feb 2011.
I dont mind em reducing the rates but atleast announce it.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Najara on September 19, 2011, 03:10:19 pm
Honestly, I do. Not because it means less stat-food, but this is like the third time that they've changed it. They should make up their mind already. -_-
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Trenticus on September 19, 2011, 03:13:25 pm
lol, find a middle ground. It went from 1.5% to 6% so I'd say 3% isn't too shabby.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 19, 2011, 03:18:08 pm
So I guess Karvo prices will jack back up since Niff is back to being the number one spot . Anyhow my only issue here is why did they not announce it. The day they announced it to be "Increased/Normalized" I knew its only a matter of time before they reduce it again. This can be treated as an event of some sort then, eh ? Its 1.5% again if I am not mistaken. Its like the old rate now.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: balam on September 19, 2011, 03:48:56 pm
nvm
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: kurip on September 19, 2011, 03:52:10 pm
refer to this http://animusro.wikispaces.com/Change+Log for the updated change log
last blazer entry was august 17th so it might be some glitch, after all they did merged with the latest svn some days ago. Might as well ask haine or fidelis to check it out
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 19, 2011, 04:01:52 pm
Yeah, I noticed it too. I've been farming stat foods from plant cultivating. And I noticed that my earnings dropped by 300k~400k per batch.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: listatxx on September 19, 2011, 04:47:10 pm
Nothing new to mention, but I have noticed this aswell.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: ~nGenTodd~ on September 19, 2011, 06:11:00 pm
Kekekeke win!!! No more ez mode i guess. That imkez guy so gonna rage over this. After all thats what he do daily, Ez mode farming
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Sera on September 19, 2011, 07:37:34 pm
Kekekeke win!!! No more ez mode i guess. That imkez guy so gonna rage over this. After all thats what he do daily, Ez mode farming
lolwut?
@topic Noticed it too, I hope it gets reversed back to 6% because you could farm anywhere and get decent cash Lol (and made a nice thing if you are doing a taekwon ranker)
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 19, 2011, 07:45:58 pm
Eh I hope they didn't nerf it too horribly.. hopefully it says around 3~4% at least.
It's my favorite way to make money, no worries about competing with other players.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Forgotten Experiment on September 19, 2011, 08:23:35 pm
There is no concept of change log anymore as well. I had to find the change log via search - It was locked and un-stickied way back in Feb 2011.
I dont mind em reducing the rates but atleast announce it.
>_>... Changing things without letting people know.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 19, 2011, 09:41:45 pm
Yeah, it's pretty painful for stat food farmers :/ 6%->1.5% what's up with that. ::)
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 19, 2011, 09:45:57 pm
from what I understand, stat food is about the same income as other methods, you just have less competition and its overall more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 19, 2011, 09:48:39 pm
Yeah, you don't have to kill the same monsters thousands of times just to earn zeny.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 01:26:37 am
I am a bit of neutral on the subject since it was a huge zeny inflow. Poison spores exceeded Niff -> Not that it was a bad thing but there was a small or somewhat big group of people who did not like the whole thing . It is possible someone went crazy about it.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Fidelis on September 20, 2011, 02:31:22 am
It's still on 6% in the code. So if it was nerfed due to a source code update somehow, it was not intentional on the GM side.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Trenticus on September 20, 2011, 03:48:11 am
What no more pirate? /omg
On Topic: Kewl beans! I assume it's already been fixed? /?
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: kurip on September 20, 2011, 04:22:52 am
I am a bit of neutral on the subject since it was a huge zeny inflow. Poison spores exceeded Niff -> Not that it was a bad thing but there was a small or somewhat big group of people who did not like the whole thing . It is possible someone went crazy about it.
on this matter @fidelis is it possible to disable blazer drops on low lv mobs?
Money gain should be exponential to the strenght of the mob killed, stronger mob = better loot. If everyone just grabs a blazer and starts making a shitload of money on poison spores, what is the point of getting stronger gears to make money elsewhere or even explore RO world?
No wonder certain dungeons are empty
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Combo on September 20, 2011, 05:20:41 am
That and anything worth farming is worthless thanks to the AD shop.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Fidelis on September 20, 2011, 05:55:04 am
I am a bit of neutral on the subject since it was a huge zeny inflow. Poison spores exceeded Niff -> Not that it was a bad thing but there was a small or somewhat big group of people who did not like the whole thing . It is possible someone went crazy about it.
on this matter @fidelis is it possible to disable blazer drops on low lv mobs?
Money gain should be exponential to the strenght of the mob killed, stronger mob = better loot. If everyone just grabs a blazer and starts making a shitload of money on poison spores, what is the point of getting stronger gears to make money elsewhere or even explore RO world?
No wonder certain dungeons are empty
That's actually an interesting idea. Not entirely disable it, but make the drop rate dependent on the monster level.
Well I find it quite a bit overpowered that it's able to make an extremely high amount of money just by equipping these two cards and then using them on Plant Cultivation spawns, which results in you getting like 6mil-10mil per hour. That's too high, and this should not be your main source of income; we're currently discussing ways how to make it less problematic as it is now.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 06:41:34 am
Anyhow check the code since it seems to be acting 1.5% as confirmed by people of this thread. Idc which map the focus shifts - I was kinda happy people gout of of Niff for a while. The spore map is slightly pleasant (if you dont use /fog) as compared to niff and I advised too many new people to target 5 Ads buy a blazer and cart revo their arses in spores.
That and anything worth farming is worthless thanks to the AD shop.
And this. I dont care if you remove blazers completely - add something worthwhile to hunt in every dungeon series. For Example : I remember when in the old days Glit jackets were worth 5M each I would farm them in geffen 4, worth my time.Now Glits are no longer valuable nor are dark priests anywhere normal to kill with their messed up HP. I wonder if my feedback regarding this matter has been read. Thing is whenever you adjust something that affects something that has existed for ages here. You better be having something better to counter the recoil. We have had nerfs but the counter has never been there mounting to player discontent.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Fidelis on September 20, 2011, 06:48:12 am
The item code still says 6%. I will go through the source code changes when I'm back home to see if I missed anything there.
As for your feedback, yes, it has been read and I can tell you that it's also one of the topics being discussed by us right now.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: scarface1975 on September 20, 2011, 07:42:55 am
Great, I thought something was wrong the last time I went food farming. Thanks for checking Fid. :-*
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 07:53:17 am
Its as if the update rolled back the script for Blazer - though technically that isnt possible. For me Blazer spore farming was more of a thing to do while I used mainchat lol.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 08:51:03 am
I am a bit of neutral on the subject since it was a huge zeny inflow. Poison spores exceeded Niff -> Not that it was a bad thing but there was a small or somewhat big group of people who did not like the whole thing . It is possible someone went crazy about it.
on this matter @fidelis is it possible to disable blazer drops on low lv mobs?
Money gain should be exponential to the strenght of the mob killed, stronger mob = better loot. If everyone just grabs a blazer and starts making a shitload of money on poison spores, what is the point of getting stronger gears to make money elsewhere or even explore RO world?
No wonder certain dungeons are empty
That's actually an interesting idea. Not entirely disable it, but make the drop rate dependent on the monster level.
Well I find it quite a bit overpowered that it's able to make an extremely high amount of money just by equipping these two cards and then using them on Plant Cultivation spawns, which results in you getting like 6mil-10mil per hour. That's too high, and this should not be your main source of income; we're currently discussing ways how to make it less problematic as it is now.
Actually, we don't get 6mil~10mil per hour using plant cultivate, the most i get is up to 4~5m per hour. With an average of 400k~600k per batch. It's not even close to what niff and poison spores hunter are making. :/
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 09:01:21 am
Plant cultivate actually makes more than Spores - I have tested it myself although it comes at a very severe cost. You risk affecting the nerves of your hands spamming that fast and that much. It can cause nervous disorders, disorientation, Early Arthritis,OCD and severe muscle ache . I am being serious regarding the health disorders. Its not even fun and its extremely painful. You people (who are using this method) should not swap your health for Zeny.
Despite it being a more zeny making method , I severely discourage anyone from using that method. If I am to make an anime like comparison here - That method is like Luffys gear 2nd or Narutos Wind Release Shuriken lol. Powerful but at the cost of reducing your life.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: ohver. on September 20, 2011, 09:13:33 am
I have to agree with Assertion, it's pretty rare to get 6m+ and hour with plant culti.. I've managed it but that's also with more then one bio planting. On average I can get about 5m an hour and by the time that hour is up I'm well bored and looking for something else to do. I could easily make the same amount or more doing other things where I can level at the same time.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Bomber Will on September 20, 2011, 09:21:47 am
It feels like alot, but it is incredibly boring. :( I believe 6-10m range is with 2 people though. Either way, my mind goes numb after 20 minutes
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Fidelis on September 20, 2011, 09:22:23 am
Still, 5mil per hour by not doing anything except for using a skill... that's still too high. Even though it is boring.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: kurip on September 20, 2011, 09:24:27 am
Plant cultivate actually makes more than Spores - I have tested it myself although it comes at a very severe cost. You risk affecting the nerves of your hands spamming that fast and that much. It can cause nervous disorders, disorientation, Early Arthritis,OCD and severe muscle ache . I am being serious regarding the health disorders. Its not even fun and its extremely painful. You people (who are using this method) should not swap your health for Zeny.
Despite it being a more zeny making method , I severely discourage anyone from using that method. If I am to make an anime like comparison here - That method is like Luffys gear 2nd or Narutos Wind Release Shuriken lol. Powerful but at the cost of reducing your life.
i got my 1st doppel card by selling red bloods from plant cultivation
im so going to die soon :v
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: ohver. on September 20, 2011, 09:31:40 am
It feels like alot, but it is incredibly boring. :( I believe 6-10m range is with 2 people though. Either way, my mind goes numb after 20 minutes
Yeah, I only manage 6-10m if there's two of us doing it and even then the bulk (like 3-5m alone)of our zeny is coming from making blue pots out of the herbs. Our money gain really only jumped up with the addition of the luxury hat. I have no idea how people can manage to do it for any more then an hour DX! After like 5 minutes of it I am well bored and have a hard time staying focused on it~
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 09:36:00 am
Meh , I'd like some rare farmable object in every dungeon series - One of those goodies that drops at the rates 0.03~0.10% and is coveted by vets, not available in the Ad shop making it a great cause for farming. Something what the Hell Poodle Cards was before it was added to the Ad shop. When this is done - you can dispose off Blazers.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: ohver. on September 20, 2011, 09:43:19 am
Uh, what? Why would you dispose of blazers? Even with some rare drop or something that doesn't really mean anything for the people that don't have the time or knowledge to farm it. Blazers are awesome for nubs that want to make money for their gear.. they can keep the stat foods that would actually help them while npc'ing the rest for money towards gears or whatever. Or for people that simply don't have the time to devote hours towards farming something but don't want to/can't just donate for whatever they want.
I kinda agree though, getting something that appeals more to the vets and getting blazers away from them saving them for the nubs/lower/mid tiers that want a easy way to make zeny isn't a bad idea.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: kurip on September 20, 2011, 09:51:40 am
the problem is when something is really good people abuse it and make it less profitable than it should be. Remember how DG was profitable? who doesn't complain how niff is shit when its crowded?
Every map should be profitable in its way so people spread everywhere to make money
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 09:55:10 am
the problem is when something is really good people abuse it. Remember how DG was profitable?
Then Fenrir came out.
The thing is if you have many alternatives for profitable drops - They cant be abused. People can only be at one spot. The problem with DG was that it was the only spot with drops not in the Ad shop. Everyone rushed in here. If there were more maps - the players would remain divided keeping the prices balanced.
By this I dont mean getting rid of them, I mean applying Kurips and Fidelis current plan.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Bomber Will on September 20, 2011, 09:59:19 am
DG still is (got a diab mant or w/e which was 20m z pretty fast) but its a horrible map to play in. I like odin better, but there was a card nerf so its way harder to get box of sunlight (And no fuck geffenia, I hate that map) :( Was lucky to get like 1 box in 2-4 hrs. If boxes dropped a bit more, i'd prolly never leave odin o.O
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 10:05:37 am
DG still is (got a diab mant or w/e which was 20m z pretty fast) but its a horrible map to play in. I like odin better, but there was a card nerf so its way harder to get box of sunlight (And no fuck geffenia, I hate that map) :( Was lucky to get like 1 box in 2-4 hrs. If boxes dropped a bit more, i'd prolly never leave odin o.O
Will get a DDPB MG and ice pick on a sinx and farm those in Geffenia. Its ridiculously easy when you can mob those fake angels. I used to collect them when MotE was around. I dont do that now unless people offer 300 or 400k for one lol. DG will die out once the Proxy garb is enabled. Diab Mant will end up being a lesser than 1 M item if that happens like the other 3 rares that drop there.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Bomber Will on September 20, 2011, 10:09:23 am
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate geffenia.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 10:11:29 am
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate geffenia.
I made like 300-400M there back in the old days in form of Glit jackets(5M) , Fake angel wings(20k each) and Blades of Darkness(They were 1-2M each) lol. I used to play short spans of time. Could never put in more than 2 hours . It was fun back then. I never even bothered with Niff and Blazer farming.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 10:17:55 am
Still, 5mil per hour by not doing anything except for using a skill... that's still too high. Even though it is boring.
Imo, I dont find it boring cause its a chance for me to farm while hanging out with my guildmates and friends in our save point. Its just a matter of preference I guess If you guys find it boring.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: kurip on September 20, 2011, 10:23:51 am
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate geffenia.
i liked it more when ws were scared of that place
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Trenticus on September 20, 2011, 10:37:15 am
ITT: Farming Spots
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 10:38:37 am
The points been made lol , I wont mind a nice discussion regarding farming points specially if we have a Fidelis in discussion :P
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 20, 2011, 05:15:27 pm
If I can throw my two cents in: I'm of course going to be against messing with blazers because that's how I make my money. I've purchased probably 15-20m in gear just to profit from them more. I would not be against a lower rate, just as long as it stays a viable method for making zeny.
The reason why I chose this method is that other farming areas, such as skellington, are overrun with players who will kill steal you, or even harass you. I had a couple bad experiences when I was leveling there; when I learned of this method I was relieved. I can avoid these high traffic areas and I just enjoy the game more.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 05:55:31 pm
The reason why I chose this method is that other farming areas, such as skellington, are overrun with players who will kill steal you, or even harass you.
It's still on 6% in the code. So if it was nerfed due to a source code update somehow, it was not intentional on the GM side.
I thought it wasn't intentional,but why is it still 1.5%?
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Fidelis on September 20, 2011, 06:04:12 pm
It is not 1.5%. It is on 6% currently, I don't know what is causing the reduced drop rate. Maybe even the 6% were glitched previously, and it was fixed somehow?
I mean, are you talking about the ingame description, does that one say 1.5%? If so, don't mind that, what's important is the server code, and that one says 6%.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 06:18:47 pm
No, i'm not talking about the ingame description.(I don't even see any ingame description. It just say " Add the chance of of gaining a Food Item each time a monster is killed ). What i meant was the drop rate of stat foods right now is really low. :/
*EDIT*
Nevermind, my bad it's 6% now. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 20, 2011, 07:20:34 pm
No, i'm not talking about the ingame description.(I don't even see any ingame description. It just say " Add the chance of of gaining a Food Item each time a monster is killed ). What i meant was the drop rate of stat foods right now is really low. :/
*EDIT*
Nevermind, my bad it's 6% now. Thanks :)
Fixed eh ? Checky Checky.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 08:43:29 pm
No, my bad again, it's still nerfed. :/ Test it too.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Kerax on September 20, 2011, 08:47:02 pm
No, my bad again, it's still nerfed. :/ Test it too.
Yea, I'm pretty sure it's 1.5% still. I don't make as much as when they were 6% when I was farming. = /
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: cis_trans on September 20, 2011, 09:10:21 pm
Checked, did timed runs, and seems back to the 6%. idk, maybe you're unlucky. :police:
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 20, 2011, 09:11:55 pm
Mine didn't seem too bad.
Please don't nerf blazers too bad, and please don't do it based on level of the monster.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 09:59:21 pm
Idk man lol. my earnings are cut in half.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on September 20, 2011, 10:16:50 pm
Honestly, you can make much more money in Geffenia, but I strongly don't support nerfing Blazers again. Leave them be, there needs to be alternative ways to make money.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 20, 2011, 10:46:06 pm
Honestly, you can make much more money in Geffenia, but I strongly don't support nerfing Blazers again. Leave them be, there needs to be alternative ways to make money.
I agree.
@GM Fidelis, it's still nerfed. 2~4 foods per 5 minute planting batch is ridiculous. I've double checked,triple checked,multi checked it, and it's still nerfed. ;/
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: HzVee on September 21, 2011, 12:52:52 am
I only feel slight drop of drop rate.. its like halfed only, not 6% to 1.5% ;D should check again when I have the time
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 21, 2011, 08:04:45 am
Yea It feels halved although I think I have figured what has happened. I noticed that even my Gift box count went down substantially and that is when I figured it. 2 Blazers and 2 cubics aren't working like they were. Meaning even with 2 blazers you still have a single 6% drop rate as opposed to two 6% drop rates. Same with Gift boxes - I got almost half of what I used to get on pre 20th sept maintainence runs.
In short, having 2 blazers or 2 cubics atm is redundant.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: nonochim on September 21, 2011, 08:12:54 am
o.O they're nerfed? wtf i havent been to the lab lately so i wouldnt kno... imma check this out someitmes this week...
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Mistress Pyro on September 21, 2011, 08:27:10 am
Yea It feels halved although I think I have figured what has happened. I noticed that even my Gift box count went down substantially and that is when I figured it. 2 Blazers and 2 cubics aren't working like they were. Meaning even with 2 blazers you still have a single 6% drop rate as opposed to two 6% drop rates. Same with Gift boxes - I got almost half of what I used to get on pre 20th sept maintainence runs.
In short, having 2 blazers or 2 cubics atm is redundant.
oooh~ Well then lets hope they fix it. I need my scarlet dyes~
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: scarface1975 on September 21, 2011, 08:49:38 am
Yeah, 2x blazers aren't stacking anymore. I tried it myself.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: HzVee on September 21, 2011, 08:59:09 am
Yea It feels halved although I think I have figured what has happened. I noticed that even my Gift box count went down substantially and that is when I figured it. 2 Blazers and 2 cubics aren't working like they were. Meaning even with 2 blazers you still have a single 6% drop rate as opposed to two 6% drop rates. Same with Gift boxes - I got almost half of what I used to get on pre 20th sept maintainence runs.
In short, having 2 blazers or 2 cubics atm is redundant.
After more checking, well I guess 1 blazer is really working normal. 400-800k a trip in poison spore.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: assertion on September 21, 2011, 09:35:08 am
Yeah, I noticed the drop rate is kind of halved. :/
@pyro I think i have some scarlet dyes. ;D
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 21, 2011, 10:39:36 am
Yea It feels halved although I think I have figured what has happened. I noticed that even my Gift box count went down substantially and that is when I figured it. 2 Blazers and 2 cubics aren't working like they were. Meaning even with 2 blazers you still have a single 6% drop rate as opposed to two 6% drop rates. Same with Gift boxes - I got almost half of what I used to get on pre 20th sept maintainence runs.
In short, having 2 blazers or 2 cubics atm is redundant.
Yeah this is what happened because I can definitely feel it on the cubics.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: matteo fitz182 on September 21, 2011, 12:23:30 pm
Yeah, I was told it was nerfed to 1.5%. Glad i sold mine just before it happened, i never really used it anyway.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Sera on September 21, 2011, 12:26:40 pm
It can also be safe to say that all cards that enable stuff to drop from monsters are not stackable anymore.
Like that Box of Sunlight card or box of painting (or something like that lol)
What I wonder is, will this be fixed back to having two separate chances that in 6% you will get food?
Because if not, Ima use a hell poodle ring instead lol.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: slurpyninja on September 21, 2011, 12:34:34 pm
weird thought but if the cards never actually stacked in the first place why did the second one stop working?
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 21, 2011, 02:23:52 pm
weird thought but if the cards never actually stacked in the first place why did the second one stop working?
They didnt stack - they gave you 2 chances of getting the item. I have got 2 food items from 1 monster a lot of times to act as proof to this fact and I have got 2 gift boxes once as well. Its mostly as if you are killing 2 monsters when it comes to getting special drops. That is down to 1 chance now even if you use 2 cards. I havent found 2 food items from 1 monster ever since. Perhaps I didnt test it enough. At this moment its only a hypothesis on what the problem can be since Fidelis said the rates are still the same.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: SanRath on September 21, 2011, 02:30:22 pm
Gives one a reason to use Plasma or Mimic again P:
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 21, 2011, 03:17:21 pm
I often used either 2 mimics or 2 Blazers XD - Never was concerned about the net z/value. When I needed +10 stat foods I went blazers - when I wanted to try and get a slotted necklace I went with mimic and OBBs lol.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: slurpyninja on September 21, 2011, 03:29:02 pm
>.> i actually ran 1 blazer, 1 mimic, and 1 myst case 'till last week... now i'm kinda sadface i got that second blazer...
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 21, 2011, 06:05:25 pm
Well whatever is going to be the permanent change needs to be announced so I can decide what to do gear wise... i.e. sell off one of my blazers.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Fidelis on September 22, 2011, 09:56:01 am
Alright, so it's currently like this:
The source code was a little bit buggy to begin with. You were NOT supposed to be able to use two Blazer clips at the same time, but due to a small coding mistake, it worked, but as I said, looking at the source code, it was NOT intentional. So it's now like it's supposed to be: if you equip two items that give additional item drops (the SAME item drops), only the higher rate will be applied, i.e. if one item grants a 10% chance to drop a food item, and another item grants a 20% chance to drop a food item, only the 20% will work. It does not stack, and they do not work separately (as it was previously). However, if you equip two items, and both of them add a DIFFERENT additional drop, like one item gives 10% food and the other one gives 20% gift boxes, both items WILL work.
As you could call it an official bug fix, I'm kinda opposed to change it back to the way it was before... I mean the people who use it as a way to make money could always use one blazer and one mimic or any other accessory card that grants additional item drops, although the profit will be a bit less, since food items are, for some reason, ridiculously expensive compared to other items... will have to discuss this with the whole staff, though.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 22, 2011, 10:16:23 am
If it was a bug then imo you need not revert it back . Though I did use Ads to buy my second blazer - lets hope I can find some fella willing to pay me a nice price XD
You just need to confirm - it shouldnt be the case that I sell my second Blazer and then you decide to revert it back :)
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: slurpyninja on September 22, 2011, 10:32:48 am
If it was a bug then imo you need not revert it back . Though I did use Ads to buy my second blazer - lets hope I can find some fella willing to pay me a nice price XD
You just need to confirm - it shouldnt be the case that I sell my second Blazer and then you decide to revert it back :)
^^^ this... if it was a bug then dont revert it back. people can survive with one.
Same with me... just bought a second one and carded a second hat with a myst case... oh well XD
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 22, 2011, 03:51:46 pm
This makes me sad but it could be worse. Dx
B>Mimic
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Mistress Pyro on September 22, 2011, 04:15:21 pm
You do know that there is a buying section on the forums right?
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 22, 2011, 04:31:45 pm
OBBS are nice too - I used them for most of the time - I only got a second Blazer after the food drop rate was increased.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: slurpyninja on September 22, 2011, 05:31:46 pm
Seriously it gives the other cards use again 'cuz people will actually USE them. (and really i just love getting a crapton of boxes and opening them all at once for the lawls) Plazmas pretty cool too :o havent used it yet tho.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Razer on September 22, 2011, 07:16:30 pm
The boxes need a bit of clean up. After one of the updates the junk volume became so high its practically impossible to get anything good from them. You'd get one good item every one or two thousand boxes.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: slurpyninja on September 22, 2011, 07:17:58 pm
The boxes need a bit of clean up. After one of the updates the junk volume became so high its practically impossible to get anything good from them. You'd get one good item every one or two thousand boxes.
>.> i think i get better things from gift boxes than OBBs...
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: Avarie on September 22, 2011, 10:32:43 pm
Having 2 should give 2 separate chances to proc Pnuema or is the 2nd Errende disabled ???
Let me check. What I said a few posts earlier only goes for additional item drops, not autoskill casting.
EDIT: Autocast cards should've never stacked to begin with (if it's the same cards; different cards do give two chances at casting the skill), i.e. the 2nd Errende is disabled.
Title: Re: Has Blazer rate been nerfed again ?
Post by: DreamerP on September 23, 2011, 03:21:19 am
GAWD FIDELIS I WAS JUST CONFIRMING AND THEY ARE THE SAME THING /pif