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Title: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 02:27:16 am

Better value for money?
I currently have a +5 tirfing buckler...

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: skith on March 21, 2011, 02:43:35 am

Do you want to card it with a Tirfing card?

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: pepesmith on March 21, 2011, 03:30:58 am

Valkyrie Shield is good coz  it has elemental reduction but for card I prefer Hodrelim instead of Tirfing for mobbing purposes. But for universal usage you will never go wrong with high upgraded Guard[1]/Stone Buckler[1].

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: Xia Xue on March 21, 2011, 06:04:41 am

^
i also thought of that there's elemental reduction if its valk and also prefers Hodremlin card for all size.

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 06:58:01 pm

My current use for it is for niffing..
i'm actually eyeing the +9 tirfing buckler in prontera...however, for its price, i was thinking maybe valk shield would be better..

also, which would be a nice devi garment for my WS? i currently have +8devi hood..is the addition 5% neutral of a diablous manteu worth it? or would +7 wolfheidan be better? (again for niffing)

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: The Mystic on March 21, 2011, 08:46:50 pm

Quote from: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 06:58:01 pm

My current use for it is for niffing..
i'm actually eyeing the +9 tirfing buckler in prontera...however, for its price, i was thinking maybe valk shield would be better..

also, which would be a nice devi garment for my WS? i currently have +8devi hood..is the addition 5% neutral of a diablous manteu worth it? or would +7 wolfheidan be better? (again for niffing)

Hodremlin Valk > Tirf Valk for niff
Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk
Diab mant and wolfheiden are a tie. Depends on gears If using ring of reso go for diab, otherwise wolfheiden.
or wait for shadow garbs.

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 09:38:06 pm

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually) :)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: The Mystic on March 21, 2011, 09:43:23 pm

Quote from: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 09:38:06 pm

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually) :)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

Just because of the card effects and the fact that everything in niff is of every size. But Hodremlin valk would be much better than a S. Buckler. So if you plan to hardcore farm niff stick with going for a hodremlin valk. Shadow garbs drop from a MVP that isn't out yet. Hodremlin isn't the best for MVP but it will get you by.

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: Xia Xue on March 22, 2011, 10:55:21 am

Quote from: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 09:38:06 pm

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually) :)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

the difference is that Hodremlin reduces 15% dmg from all size monsters and i think there's 1 more effect while tirfing only gives you deduction to medium type monsters by 25% + you get +1def.

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: The Mystic on March 22, 2011, 11:34:43 am

Quote from: Xia Xue on March 22, 2011, 10:55:21 am

Quote from: jepoy21 on March 21, 2011, 09:38:06 pm

what are shadow garbs? (no idea)

Does Hodremlin also do good protection for MVPs?
I'm also looking for valk mant (which is my main target actually) :)

why is Hodremlin S. Buckler > Tirf valk?  (or is this assuming that S.Buckler is +7?)

the difference is that Hodremlin reduces 15% dmg from all size monsters and i think there's 1 more effect while tirfing only gives you deduction to medium type monsters by 25% + you get +1def.

The other effect is chance of + 30 Pdodge, which imo is awesome! when it proc's I take immensely less :3
Also swapping to a fortune sword while it's proc'ed makes them miss even more. Good thing perfect dodge isn't affected by the amount of mobs you have :3 Very nice when soloing and mobbing priests who take a little while to kill the mob.

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: rolover on March 24, 2011, 12:19:07 am

pretty sure there are a few shadow garbs floating around because of the summoning event, unless they didn't drop any :x

Title: Re: Q: Which is better, +4 Valk Shield or overupped (+7~9) bucker ?
Post by: The Mystic on March 24, 2011, 12:44:42 am

Quote from: rolover on March 24, 2011, 12:19:07 am

pretty sure there are a few shadow garbs floating around because of the summoning event, unless they didn't drop any :x

Their are shadow garbs in the econ, but as of now all their unique abilities are completely disabled. basically just a wool scarf until further notice. (when nid comes out the regular bonus will be re-enabled.)