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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 03:26:45 pm
Title: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 03:26:45 pm
Can someone explain to me how a Champ who just logged into PVP (this means no prebuffs or perhaps a way to bypass the dispell?) manages to hit 49,953 Damage on Ghostring, Deviling Diabolus, Toad and Valk helm? I hate to sound like a noob, but I call fucking hacks.
I'm not sure whether to congratulate him or report him. I seriously can't think of a way for him to do that, legitimately.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/347tbg7.jpg)
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Vincenzo on February 12, 2011, 03:30:35 pm
Noob he was doing 40ks on my sniper the other day with dev+ck+toad valk+Valk helm :(
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 03:31:48 pm
But if he really had NO buffs at all, then... I guess either Hacks or Tanee.
Maybe you accidentally swapped your armor for a second?
I've tried Stat foods, and they help but not enough to give 30k more damage. The highest damage I've seen on full Neutral reductions is 15k ish or so. Now that you mention it, perhaps Tanee? If that's the case, though, he would've died after I spiraled him 3 times for full damage and he didn't pot.
double sp buff from gospel with the sp song and attack buff ???
Dispelled when you go into PVP. Unless they changed it?
Edit: Oh, and no I didn't swap. I know Walshy only Asuras so I just stick GR and Devi for him and I wasn't frozen.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: GreaterPepe on February 12, 2011, 03:46:56 pm
Stoned, perhaps? You can't see the Stone Effect through the LK skill Concentrate, or Energy Coat, or any other "Color Change" skill.
He probably swapped to a Stone armor and Asura'd before you even realized you were Cursed. That's the only thing I can think of aside from "Hacks" which I find pretty unlikely.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 03:48:31 pm
Wasn't using Concentration or other "color changing" skills. Don't use it against champs. I'm truly baffled, yo. Lol
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: GreaterPepe on February 12, 2011, 03:51:18 pm
Well I've never seen an "Asura Damage Hack", so I don't know what he could have done. The only thing it could have been was a Bug in the "Automatic Dispel" and a lot of Gospel/Song buffs or a mistake on your part that you didn't see at the time.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 03:55:02 pm
I'm realllly hoping I'm wrong but I really didn't see anything that would've proved otherwise.
Saw him log in, spiraled him a few times, he asura'd while not status'd and I died.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Linmakana on February 12, 2011, 03:59:01 pm
How much defense did you have?
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 04:00:25 pm
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 04:08:26 pm
Any GMs care to test if it's even possible on the test server? :P
All my stats and equips are there if you wanna try duplicating it! :D
I'm really curious if he's using Tanee Sleips or not.
Edit: Also, would Thanatos Card actually work with Asura damage?
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: balam on February 12, 2011, 04:09:44 pm
must be a bug on the dispelling thing prolly got there via warp clip, havent checked if those dispel yourself too, or from another pvp room to there directly
or someone BSS'd you and you didnt noticed
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Kibou on February 12, 2011, 04:13:55 pm
It's an odd possibility, but Thanatos (just like Ice Pick) will rewrite any damage formula for ATK (including piercing) and replace it with its own ATK calculation which also pierces defense.
I really would prefer confirmation on this concept of whether it works with Asura, I've talked about it on another thread and nothing came of it. (Likely because almost no one has a Thanatos card to speak of.)
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 04:15:02 pm
must be a bug on the dispelling thing prolly got there via warp clip, havent checked if those dispel yourself too, or from another pvp room to there directly
or someone BSS'd you and you didnt noticed
Pvp to pvp gets dispelled, I tried that, and there weren't even 3 acolyte classes in there to even try BSS.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: balam on February 12, 2011, 04:24:38 pm
then he hax ;3
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Linmakana on February 12, 2011, 04:25:15 pm
Also, would Thanatos Card actually work with Asura damage?
That's exactly what I was thinking. @Menardi, I know Asura pierces defense. If he somehow managed to get a Thanatos Card and stick it on a Suiken with Turtles/Hydras, the damage might boost up to that area.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: crusaderforjustice on February 12, 2011, 04:43:06 pm
No chance that a Lex was on you?
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 12, 2011, 04:52:14 pm
It's kinda stupid to yell HACKS the moment you get killed in PvP... /swt
If I was stone cursed I'd feel stupid for making this post but definitely wouldn't feel so bad for dying. And sorry but I'm not as indestructible as you think, Menardi. I've died quite a few times before this. :(
Also curious as to why you're so sure about it as well.. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Oh and also, after talking to Vincenzo, it seems he forgot to post that he was using GR as well when Walshy asura'd him for 40ks through my reductions + Combat Knife.
I wonder if he was Stoned as well.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: XsuperbikeX on February 13, 2011, 12:21:34 pm
whoa that is just messed up.
yea in WoE i rarely die with GR on when i have my TF on. With toad on the average champ does like 12-15k damage to me. I dont know who it is, but a few times i got killed by an asura during woe with GR and TF on, with 28.9k hp, 45 defense and +9 immune.
iono... i also call hax.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: GreaterPepe on February 13, 2011, 01:40:09 pm
It's kinda stupid to yell HACKS the moment you get killed in PvP... /swt
If I was stone cursed I'd feel stupid for making this post but definitely wouldn't feel so bad for dying. And sorry but I'm not as indestructible as you think, Menardi. I've died quite a few times before this. :(
Also curious as to why you're so sure about it as well.. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Oh and also, after talking to Vincenzo, it seems he forgot to post that he was using GR as well when Walshy asura'd him for 40ks through my reductions + Combat Knife.
I wonder if he was Stoned as well.
Funny, because according to Walshy, YOU had Concentration on and he wore Stone Curse armor, and then Asura'd you as a reaction, before he even realized you were Stoned. The only logical outcome is that his Stone Curse armor Procced and you didn't see it.
It really sounds to me like YOU'RE the one who thinks you're completely indestructible, and you have to call Hacks when you're killed in PvP by something you did not expect.
Unless YOU know some kind of "Asura Damage hack", you really have nothing to say on the matter. You were Stone Cursed, you died in PvP, you raged and felt it necessary to claim he hacked on the forums to grab attention. Maybe if it was WoE I'd be a little more sympathetic... But... It's PvP. You died in PvP. Whatever, dude. You could EASILY have made a support ticket, but no. You had to make a whole topic about it. ::)
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Tanis on February 13, 2011, 02:48:49 pm
I know there is a lil lag between you die and when you can still switch armors/gears.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Novice Tenchi on February 13, 2011, 03:00:06 pm
It's kinda stupid to yell HACKS the moment you get killed in PvP... /swt
If I was stone cursed I'd feel stupid for making this post but definitely wouldn't feel so bad for dying. And sorry but I'm not as indestructible as you think, Menardi. I've died quite a few times before this. :(
Also curious as to why you're so sure about it as well.. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Oh and also, after talking to Vincenzo, it seems he forgot to post that he was using GR as well when Walshy asura'd him for 40ks through my reductions + Combat Knife.
I wonder if he was Stoned as well.
Funny, because according to Walshy, YOU had Concentration on and he wore Stone Curse armor, and then Asura'd you as a reaction, before he even realized you were Stoned. The only logical outcome is that his Stone Curse armor Procced and you didn't see it.
It really sounds to me like YOU'RE the one who thinks you're completely indestructible, and you have to call Hacks when you're killed in PvP by something you did not expect.
Unless YOU know some kind of "Asura Damage hack", you really have nothing to say on the matter. You were Stone Cursed, you died in PvP, you raged and felt it necessary to claim he hacked on the forums to grab attention. Maybe if it was WoE I'd be a little more sympathetic... But... It's PvP. You died in PvP. Whatever, dude. You could EASILY have made a support ticket, but no. You had to make a whole topic about it. ::)
Lol, it's pvp. :/ We ALL feel attachments when we die. :( If we're way too into the game that is.. hahaha!
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Kiba on February 13, 2011, 03:21:41 pm
Overreacting much, Menardi?
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Razer on February 13, 2011, 06:42:36 pm
I'm not sure whether to congratulate him or report him. I seriously can't think of a way for him to do that, legitimately.
This pretty much states why Neetox did not opt for a support ticket. If there is a glitch with PVP de buffing -It should be addressed.There apparently is a problem seeing
================================================================================ Again out of curiosity what armor was the pest/dark frame in when it was used ? And what is stopping Walshy himself to come on the forums?
P.S Does anyone remember Vincent ?
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: raz1to3 on February 13, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
I'm not sure whether to congratulate him or report him. I seriously can't think of a way for him to do that, legitimately.
This pretty much states why Neetox did not opt for a support ticket. If there is a glitch with PVP de buffing -It should be addressed.There apparently is a problem seeing
================================================================================ Again out of curiosity what armor was the pest/dark frame in when it was used ? And what is stopping Walshy himself to come on the forums?
P.S Does anyone remember Vincent ?
Wow, you guys need to stop this... seriously.
Neetox you were stoned when i use asura on you, you probably didn't notice it because you were using concentrate.
Once you use Concentrate and you get stoned i don't think your character will turn "dark" that is why you probably said you didn't get stone, and as you can see you weren't
wearing any anti-status gears, so what is the chance of me stoning you?...
and i remember that you were fighting someone else when you start attacking me.
AND
I also tried doing the same thing with Kelly and Crys (Stoned Asura) and i also got the same damage...
So what is the point of this?
@Mr.Razer - nothing/no one is stopping me from posting any comment in forums, it's just i don't like dealing with forums drama and in fact i got better things to do.
and FYI
Any champs with suiken can do the same damage or probably more when using asura on a frozen or stone target.
You can call me cheap or everything by using asura but it works for me. :P
Bye
Walshy
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: GreaterPepe on February 13, 2011, 07:33:35 pm
I shall await the results of the pending investigation before speaking further on this thread. 8)
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: balam on February 13, 2011, 07:35:54 pm
lol he made you do your 4th post =P
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 13, 2011, 08:10:09 pm
Sheesh, people. This was in the Questions section for a reason. I was 100% sure I wasn't stoned, and no, Walshy I wasn't using Concentration and I also wasn't fighting anyone else, either.
Just tested and both the Attack Buff and SP buff from Gospel don't get dispelled when you go into PVP.
So yeah. Problem solved. Sent in a ticket to see if they'll fix it.
Way to get so butthurt over me dying Retardi. Didn't know you cared. <3
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Miss All Sunday on February 13, 2011, 08:15:35 pm
Well, that might be the case, I heard that as well (the gospel buffing). However he was just in town, had been on a few minutes, and we tested it and he did 55k to me w/ full reductions while stoned. Just seemed plausible.
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: GreaterPepe on February 13, 2011, 08:16:35 pm
Well It's Walshy's word Vs. Your word, and since you tend to be a dick to me on every chance you get... I chose to call Bullshit. You're just butthurt and called hacks because you can't believe you died in PvP (I Lol'd). /ok
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: Neetox on February 13, 2011, 08:18:29 pm
I wasn't stoned, though. I've died plenty of times while stoned and never thought anything of it. He asura'd me while not status'd.
He said he was gospeled later on when he went back to pvp. He even asked me to test if gospel buffs didn't get removed but I was busy chasing someone else around. So yea, problem solved.
So mean, Retardi! :(
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: GreaterPepe on February 13, 2011, 08:23:04 pm
You're just butthurt and called hacks because you can't believe you died in PvP (I Lol'd). /ok
There's really nothing else to it. If you didn't want to draw all this attention to yourself on purpose, you would have made a ticket.
Bye bye.
Well it's still a bug, since it's an outside buff. Seems pretty relevant to the whole "not legitimately" comment I made on the first post. You're just getting so butthurt over me saying hacks. Sheesh! y so defensif? Conscience bothering you?
And still bias until the end of the thread. Lol. You guys are lost causes.
8)
Title: Re: Retarded Asura Damage
Post by: katadama on February 15, 2011, 07:26:55 pm
no such thing as asura hacks, only asura hack you could prolly do is with a *** to spam asura which is easy to get spotted and GM's/other players will notice right away that your using a *** to do it, maybe he had a gypsy/pally cloaking in pvp and went there to buff up and asura you? or some new card that was added to change your armor prop and you got asura'd that could be it too, could be lady tanee too if you use a good asura build/stats+stat food+ card combos to increase asura damage.