or Lady Tanee Card, for Massive Asuras, if you put in sleips /rice
compared to fallen bishop, tanee is way too OP. Keep it drop only like maya purple
Making something drop only doesn't make it any less OP.
makes it less common
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: balam on November 18, 2010, 11:05:14 am
but maya purple card doesnt drop ???
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 18, 2010, 12:22:01 pm
Tanee is ten times more broken than Bishop is.
Sorry, but swap on - Asura - Swap off is just fucking broken. It's just not the same with High Wizards. You have to keep it on while you JT or whatever. You can put it on and then take it off with Storm Gust, but Storm Gust's damage is impossible to compare with Asura.
Oh, and lets not forget that one other card. DURRR GTB HERRP DERP.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: Teggit on November 18, 2010, 12:31:13 pm
Sorry, but swap on - Asura - Swap off is just fucking broken. It's just not the same with High Wizards. You have to keep it on while you JT or whatever. You can put it on and then take it off with Storm Gust, but Storm Gust's damage is impossible to compare with Asura.
Oh, and lets not forget that one other card. DURRR GTB HERRP DERP.
Just a note: Storm gust's damage is calculated on a hit by hit basis so you'd have to keep it on the whole time it was going off. :(
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: Razer on November 18, 2010, 12:42:28 pm
Glooms a PVM Card Mostly :( All the others you guys mention affect PVP scenes mostly. Although this would take Champs damage over some MVPs over the roof. And AM pretty sure all SM farmers will get one /heh
Gloom under Dark Card. [Original property ]+ [Monk Class] Max Sp - 50%
:police:
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: G-Star on November 18, 2010, 02:59:10 pm
compound in? shoes? if yes; hell :o then you will do easily a 1-1.5m asura ...
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 18, 2010, 06:26:16 pm
Sorry, but swap on - Asura - Swap off is just fucking broken. It's just not the same with High Wizards. You have to keep it on while you JT or whatever. You can put it on and then take it off with Storm Gust, but Storm Gust's damage is impossible to compare with Asura.
Oh, and lets not forget that one other card. DURRR GTB HERRP DERP.
Just a note: Storm gust's damage is calculated on a hit by hit basis so you'd have to keep it on the whole time it was going off. :(
That's funny, because you can swap on High Wizard Card on, cast, take it off and the effect will last for the ENTIRE Storm Gust. I guess it's just different with different cards? Or was it changed since the eAthena swap?
Meh, maybe I'm wrong and it was just a fluke, but that's how I remember it working back in Aegis.
EDIT: Wow, you can say Aegis now. No more Old Software shields?
It wouldnt be broken unless you get BSSed in war and then hit by a Melee class with gloom and shadowed weapons but using your armor slot for something other than GR makes you an easy prey in war.
PVE wise its not broken at all - However It will overpower a champion's Asura more then it already is. Thats the only fix the card will need. We do not want one shot KOs from Asura on Valkyrie.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: aone on November 20, 2010, 04:12:33 am
lol.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: DreamerP on November 20, 2010, 04:17:51 am
It wouldnt be broken unless you get BSSed in war and then hit by a Melee class with gloom and shadowed weapons but using your armor slot for something other than GR makes you an easy prey in war.
PVE wise its not broken at all - However It will overpower a champion's Asura more then it already is. Thats the only fix the card will need. We do not want one shot KOs from Asura on Valkyrie.
You know, there's this class called a "Sniper". They can endow their attacks any way they feel like and sit in the Precast so having Non-GR isn't a big problem. I thought you'd know about Snipers. You guys DO have about six of them on most WoEs now.
So no, your argument of "It's not good in WoE because you can't wear a GR with it" is completely void. Only an idiot would keep Gloom on all the time. It's called swapping, and the likelyhood of you being Asura'd or Acid Demo'd AS SOON AS you put on a Gloom Armor are slim to none if you actually know how to swap and when to swap.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: ~Neutral~ on November 20, 2010, 02:16:51 pm
No, this card should never be added into the Ad shop. Including a majority of the new MvP card drops. Those cards should be implemented ONLY into the game and ONLY gotten from those MvPs.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: Bagel-kun on November 20, 2010, 02:45:48 pm
Seriously I dont mean to insult anyone but cards should be ad shop or not at all to put them as drop only is just stupid. If they are broken it doesn't make them anyless broken. One of the best things ive always thought abotu this server is that anyone can get anything which is not true and should never be true when certain cards are drop only.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: Razer on November 20, 2010, 02:51:47 pm
You know, there's this class called a "Sniper". They can endow their attacks any way they feel like and sit in the Precast so having Non-GR isn't a big problem. I thought you'd know about Snipers. You guys DO have about six of them on most WoEs now.
So no, your argument of "It's not good in WoE because you can't wear a GR with it" is completely void. Only an idiot would keep Gloom on all the time. It's called swapping, and the likelyhood of you being Asura'd or Acid Demo'd AS SOON AS you put on a Gloom Armor are slim to none if you actually know how to swap and when to swap.
All that crap holds true if you are wearing holy or get BSSed. Lastly, all Non idiots who can kill with range will make sure to target snipers first. I always lunge at snipers because they dont have a shield and are easy kills. The likely hood of snipers surviving without a GR against an attacking team who have the slightest idea of what they are doing is null. In fact even if a paladin is devoing such a sniper- He will pass out as well.
Wow you sure know a lot about our numbers, I bet you probably can name them all too.
Title: Re: Chance of Gloom Card in Adshop ?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 20, 2010, 03:00:05 pm
No I can't name them all, but I DO have screenshots. I don't really pay attention to all your member's names since none of them really stick out in the crowd. Maybe you should start looking at classes during WoE and after WoE too. That's one of the factors that make a professional player. Awareness of surroundings and instant adaptability.
Also although it might not seem obvious at first I don't hate ALL of you. I only hate the people that treat me like shit in the first place.
I talk to MotE members about WoE all the time.
On that note you should also learn to Shift-Click your precast. Sorry, but Acid Demo is not a multi-target Skill and never will be, and most Precasts will hide their squishy classes inside other classes to help keep them alive. So no, it's still a void argument. B.S.S is not hard at all to pull off and it would be a pretty decent buff to Snipers and defense during WoE, both of which REALLY don't need anymore buffs.
I fully support it for PvM though. Might be a little OP against Valkyrie, but people farm Valk 24/7 anyway without a problem anyway.
But the thing is... They already said it's not going in the shop soon. So I guess I'll just go away now; no point in arguing with you over this.
Title: Closed
Post by: Razer on November 20, 2010, 03:24:53 pm
Maybe you should start looking at classes during WoE and after WoE too. That's one of the factors that make a professional player. Awareness of surroundings and instant adaptability.
Meh, I dont look at videos or SS - Its an over kill. I fairly have a good idea of the strong/weak/considerable threat category players in every present guild. I am even aware with how they often react in war /heh,/e4,*Taunting chats*, emo talk etc.
But the thing is... They already said it's not going in the shop soon. So I guess I'll just go away now; no point in arguing with you over this.
I am not asking for it to be in the Ad shop lol. I am just confirming that the card I am willing to spend a small fortune over wont be made available in the Ad shop the next day for 25 Ads lol.