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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 09, 2010, 07:45:26 pm

Title: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 09, 2010, 07:45:26 pm
Since, the SQI seems god-like.

And, they are pure DPS, right?
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Waylander on November 09, 2010, 08:01:10 pm
I here with 2 kiels and a sniping suit they are epix o.o
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Tanis on November 09, 2010, 08:04:18 pm
until they get frozen asura'd D'=
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 09, 2010, 08:05:40 pm
I here with 2 kiels and a sniping suit they are epix o.o

I thought they needed a WildValk?
What do they spam with Two Kiels?
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Combo on November 09, 2010, 08:17:46 pm
Sharp Shoot.  Lots of it.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 09, 2010, 08:35:51 pm
I here with 2 kiels and a sniping suit they are epix o.o

I thought they needed a WildValk?
What do they spam with Two Kiels?
Two kiels is only good if you stat some luk. Since crit drops by a lot without gryphons.
Best combo for SS sniper in my opinion is Kaho,TTH arty,duel sting brys with some luk statted. A bit of vit of survival. That combo combined with SS's +20 crit should give 100% crits and do the most damage. And if you want to DPS just Beserk pitch.
Just my opinion on it. Not the best survivability but the most damaging :x
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 09, 2010, 08:37:16 pm
I here with 2 kiels and a sniping suit they are epix o.o

I thought they needed a WildValk?
What do they spam with Two Kiels?
Two kiels is only good if you stat some luk. Since crit drops by a lot without gryphons.
Best combo for SS sniper in my opinion is Kaho,TTH arty,duel sting brys with some luk statted. A bit of vit of survival. That combo combined with SS's +20 crit should give 100% crits and do the most damage. And if you want to DPS just Beserk pitch.
Just my opinion on it. Not the best survivability but the most damaging :x

Does is have to be DDH for best DPS? Can it be ANYTHING else?
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 09, 2010, 08:43:09 pm
Well they'd have to be amazing.

Why else would MotE get a regular attendance of Six (And soon to be Seven apparently)
And Divi get a regular attendance of Three (Used to be Five, now it's Four at the most)
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Auurium on November 09, 2010, 08:47:49 pm
He just asked if Snipers are good for WoE.
Not how many Snipers certain guild haves.

Imo from experience of being and seen others, they tend to be glasscannons at times. If youre good enough you can keep your ass alive for a good amount of time. The SQI might look Godly and menacing but with some reduxs here and there I think a Champion is still more menacing.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 09, 2010, 08:51:28 pm
He just asked if Snipers are good for WoE.
Not how many Snipers certain guild haves.

Imo from experience of being and seen others, they tend to be glasscannons at times. If youre good enough you can keep your ass alive for a good amount of time. The SQI might look Godly and menacing but with some reduxs here and there I think a Champion is still more menacing.

Well, I was wanting to make a Stalker at first, but lost my motivation. And now you're telling me Champs are better. D:
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Auurium on November 09, 2010, 08:53:48 pm
He just asked if Snipers are good for WoE.
Not how many Snipers certain guild haves.

Imo from experience of being and seen others, they tend to be glasscannons at times. If youre good enough you can keep your ass alive for a good amount of time. The SQI might look Godly and menacing but with some reduxs here and there I think a Champion is still more menacing.

Well, I was wanting to make a Stalker at first, but lost my motivation. And now you're telling me Champs are better. D:

Well I still like playing Sniper, not inducing you to play Champion though. It's just what I've experienced by myself in RO. Lol. Snipers can handle their situations pretty well in almost any aspect of the game, in official terms and customized, this is why I like them.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 09, 2010, 08:55:51 pm
I here with 2 kiels and a sniping suit they are epix o.o

I thought they needed a WildValk?
What do they spam with Two Kiels?
Two kiels is only good if you stat some luk. Since crit drops by a lot without gryphons.
Best combo for SS sniper in my opinion is Kaho,TTH arty,duel sting brys with some luk statted. A bit of vit of survival. That combo combined with SS's +20 crit should give 100% crits and do the most damage. And if you want to DPS just Beserk pitch.
Just my opinion on it. Not the best survivability but the most damaging :x

Does is have to be TTH for best DPS? Can it be ANYTHING else?
fix'd? Also no DDH is a waste for DPS. It's only good for low levels/hunters and high dex/vit/luk builds. If you want a high agi build get a DTT/DTH and awake pot. If you want semi vit/agi get DTH/DTT and beserk pitch. If you want high vit get DTH/DTT and beserk pitch.
The best DPS build/bow for either SS or DPS is still TTH arty. 190 aspd is easy to get with beserk pitch and you don't have to overload your agi as much.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 09, 2010, 08:56:32 pm
He just asked if Snipers are good for WoE.
Not how many Snipers certain guild haves.

Imo from experience of being and seen others, they tend to be glasscannons at times. If youre good enough you can keep your ass alive for a good amount of time. The SQI might look Godly and menacing but with some reduxs here and there I think a Champion is still more menacing.

Well, I was wanting to make a Stalker at first, but lost my motivation. And now you're telling me Champs are better. D:

Well I still like playing Sniper, not inducing you to play Champion though. It's just what I've experienced by myself in RO. Lol. Snipers can handle their situations pretty well in almost any aspect of the game, in official terms and customized, this is why I like them.

I liked them b/c of their crit + Range + bird = 1ks at 190aspd and bird attacking. Seems like they'd be number one on the DPS chart. But, AD and Asura are lame. D:
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Auurium on November 09, 2010, 09:01:54 pm

Well they're supposed to be one of a DPSey class in the aspect of the game. But Sinxes still win that position with their skills, Sniper would be like No.3 or something like that, you'll need a Falconer build to be very DPSey. But their hidden forté are traps. Maybe because here we all get crazy falcon DPS, but my falcon doesnt matters much as I don't run a lot of INT for him. They're pretty NO. 1 in PvM, however, because of being versatile (almost all elements in game) and range wich gives them the upper hand against a lot of monsters.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 09, 2010, 09:04:32 pm
He just asked if Snipers are good for WoE.
Not how many Snipers certain guild haves.

Imo from experience of being and seen others, they tend to be glasscannons at times. If youre good enough you can keep your ass alive for a good amount of time. The SQI might look Godly and menacing but with some reduxs here and there I think a Champion is still more menacing.

Well, I was wanting to make a Stalker at first, but lost my motivation. And now you're telling me Champs are better. D:

Well I still like playing Sniper, not inducing you to play Champion though. It's just what I've experienced by myself in RO. Lol. Snipers can handle their situations pretty well in almost any aspect of the game, in official terms and customized, this is why I like them.

I liked them b/c of their crit + Range + bird = 1ks at 190aspd and bird attacking. Seems like they'd be number one on the DPS chart. But, AD and Asura are lame. D:
Well at least you don't burn as much money as them.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Auurium on November 09, 2010, 09:16:08 pm
Well at least you don't burn as much money as them.

That too. XD
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 09, 2010, 09:46:58 pm
Was using Guild attendances to prove a point. It's obvious that Snipers are one of the most desirable classes for WoE just from that.

For me, Champs aren't as Menacing. The only time I ever even give a Champ any attention is when I'm frozen. Snipers deserve much more of my attention than Champs do, since Dispelling them can mean life or death for my Squishier Guildmates. I dunno about you, but I tend to protect my Guild before I protect myself.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Tanis on November 09, 2010, 10:02:37 pm
Well they'd have to be amazing.

Why else would MotE get a regular attendance of Six (And soon to be Seven apparently)
And Divi get a regular attendance of Three (Used to be Five, now it's Four at the most)

I dunno who provides you with intel but it varies 3-5.

@topic. Straight dps is low damage in Woe since all dmg is reduced 20%.Skills are reduced by 40%. There is a chance that you will break your enemy's status with dps (like if they are frozen or stoned). When you are on attack, TTH arty is useless for capping. However, With a DTT/DTH arty, You can SS AND dps effectively.  /no1
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 09, 2010, 10:10:53 pm
I dunno who provides you with intel but it varies 3-5.

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/sketchonexx/sketches/a3cb3e74.png)

You failed, Tanny.
And no, you CAN'T have FCP.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Tanis on November 09, 2010, 10:13:23 pm
Lol. thats 1 woe out of 5 years  ::)
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 09, 2010, 10:14:23 pm
Lol. thats 1 woe out of 5 years  ::)

My point is Valid. All I'm saying is that Snipers are in high demand, and that screenshot proves it.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Tanis on November 09, 2010, 10:16:38 pm
Yup. For Defense, its key; for offense, I still think LKs are the class to beat.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 09, 2010, 10:18:31 pm
Yup. For Defense, its key; for offense, I still think LKs are the class to beat.

Lol 17 LKs.

And no, not really. LKs are incredibly weak in terms of capping, unless you're a troll and decide to roll 17 of them.
For Guilds that are ACTUALLY Serious, Sinx are more useful.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Auurium on November 09, 2010, 10:21:19 pm
Stop derrailing threads, please, specially to point out certain spots there from your own likings.
OP's point is sort of far from what he expected as a respone, you may prove Sniper's demand on WoE, but he just asked if DPS was good for them, in theory, and that if they were good for WoE. No need to go far from it.

if you want to talk about nowadays war's needs and whereabouts go make a thread about it.

Keep it on topic.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Tanis on November 09, 2010, 10:23:02 pm
Offense doesn't mean capping.  ::) LKs are for killing and tanking for sinxs

:<

Ninja edit
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: GreaterPepe on November 09, 2010, 10:26:17 pm
I don't see how LKs hurt more than EDP Sinx.
What are you talking about? Like, really? I know Professors have more Ranged Reduction than most classes, but LKs damage is so damn pathetic that it just makes me laugh.

For Clearing AND Capping, Sinx are more useful than LKs. For tanking, LKs win out.

I was just proving the point that Snipers are in high demand for WoE. Since OP is interested in Snipers role in WoE and how "Good" they are, I think my posts are completely on topic. Other than a few posts about capping. Sorry Auu. /shy
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: hunksurvivorx on November 09, 2010, 10:47:05 pm
lolz sniper are always OP. but if they caught like cornered foxes will be dead o.o, anyway everyclass has their pros and counters.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: G-Star on November 10, 2010, 03:12:37 pm
Yep every class has their pro and contras champ is OP Sniper is OP sinX is OP so better tell about some classes which are not OP like ninja or slinger
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: hunksurvivorx on November 10, 2010, 04:24:10 pm
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 10, 2010, 05:12:12 pm
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o
Teamwork = Good WoE?
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Waylander on November 10, 2010, 05:21:16 pm
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o
Waylander in ur guild = Good WoE?

fix'd :<
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Papercut the Madhatter on November 10, 2010, 05:27:03 pm
What is capping?

And, how are LKs better then Snipes?

AND, What makes SinX's so good?

Also, from that ss, it's apparent that Snipes are Very welcomed into WoE. XD
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Auurium on November 10, 2010, 05:38:27 pm
What is capping?

It's to break your enemy's Emperium, conquering the castle and make it yours (your guild).

And, how are LKs better then Snipes?

LKs can resist / tank  more damage / have a higher HP mod than Snipers do, thats pretty much I can say ATM.

AND, What makes SinX's so good?

Lets this be answered by a SinX. :P

Also, from that ss, it's apparent that Snipes are Very welcomed into WoE. XD
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 10, 2010, 09:53:53 pm
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o
Waylander in ur guild = Good WoE?

fix'd :<
Yeah it is fix'd /no1
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: G-Star on November 11, 2010, 05:52:43 am
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o

if you are good as champ, you can beat sinx too..
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 11, 2010, 11:28:45 am
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o

if you are good as champ, you can beat sinx too..
If your good at any class you play you should be able to beat any other class.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Combo on November 11, 2010, 11:41:15 am
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o

if you are good as champ, you can beat sinx too..
If your good at any class you play you should be able to beat any other class.
No.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 11, 2010, 11:54:39 am
the cute thing is the rock, paper, scissors thingy, champ kills snipers, sinx kills champs, LK kills HW,and etc o.o

if you are good as champ, you can beat sinx too..
If your good at any class you play you should be able to beat any other class.
No.
It's somewhat plausible. D:
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Combo on November 11, 2010, 12:10:51 pm
A good WS can't beat a good sniper.  A good sniper can't beat a good Paladin.  A good Sinx can't beat a good HP.
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: G-Star on November 11, 2010, 02:19:47 pm
A good novice will beat all 8)
Lol does it matter? It is good that every class has their pro and contras so it is more fun and it is fairer
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: kurip on November 11, 2010, 04:49:04 pm
A good WS can't beat a good sniper.  A good sniper can't beat a good Paladin.  A good Sinx can't beat a good HP.

except EDP/SBK spam whores
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: The Mystic on November 11, 2010, 05:15:27 pm
A good WS can't beat a good sniper.  A good sniper can't beat a good Paladin.  A good Sinx can't beat a good HP.

except EDP/SK spam whores
*MC'er to proc sleep*
2nd option *Valk Mant to proc sleep*
CB SPAM!!!!
Pest armor maybe?
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: Combo on November 12, 2010, 01:39:21 am
A good WS can't beat a good sniper.  A good sniper can't beat a good Paladin.  A good Sinx can't beat a good HP.

except EDP/SBK spam whores
Well if you want to ignore those pvp rules we had then yeah, anyone can beat anyone. =_=
Not like anyone pvps properly anymore.  Amarite?
Title: Re: How amazing are Snipers in WoE with SQI?
Post by: kurip on November 12, 2010, 02:17:47 am
A good WS can't beat a good sniper.  A good sniper can't beat a good Paladin.  A good Sinx can't beat a good HP.

except EDP/SK spam whores
*MC'er to proc sleep*
2nd option *Valk Mant to proc sleep*
CB SPAM!!!!
Pest armor maybe?

EDP aside
I prefer that but with one small addition. This is why i love my DDm evang. DPS+sleep+occasional strip then CB spam with hwiz+siroma experts

only prob is that they usually run away and try to hide/log to wait for the strip to go away. I have no patience to chase people :/