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The 'Other' Section => AnesisRO Archive => Archive => General Questions => Topic started by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 08:15:43 am
Title: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 08:15:43 am
I saw that using a GTB buckler Storm Gust does not make damage in me and I saw that Priest buffs and healing does not affect me.
But fighting with monsters I saw that they can mute me and in PvP I saw that Soul Breaker can make damage me.
GTB card does not block all magic spells so, what skills GTB really block?
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: dalu on January 13, 2008, 08:26:40 am
THose are not magic skills........ :o
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 08:56:31 am
Priest buffs are considered magic spells.
But they can use "Lex Divina" when Im using GTB.
And I dont know right now what spells are considered magic and what spells are not magic.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 13, 2008, 09:02:53 am
Some thigns GTB doesn't block - Magic crasher - Status effects - Gravity field - Soul breaker (It consists of magical and physical part, GTB only block the magical part) - Pressure - Spider web - Frost joker - Throw spirit sphere
Basicaly I think that GTB blocks things that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: dalu on January 13, 2008, 09:08:24 am
we can say GTB only blocks pure magic atks which comes from int.....
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: StriferX on January 13, 2008, 09:18:03 am
Some thigns GTB doesn't block - Magic crasher - Status effects - Gravity field - Soul breaker (It consists of magical and physical part, GTB only block the magical part) - Pressure - Spider web - Frost joker - Throw spirit sphere
Basicaly I think that GTB blocks things that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage.
Good list, but perhaps is missing somethings...
There is that High Wizzard skill that removes all ur SP, is it Pressure? o.O
And Throw Spirit Sphere is phisical?
Another point: GTB was nerfed here in aRO? To not leave an overpowered card in game?
That's a Professor's skill. It's called SP conversion.
Yes.
No.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 13, 2008, 10:23:15 am
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That's a Professor's skill. It's called SP conversion.
No, that's a Professor skill called Soul burn. You're probably thinking of health conversion, it takes a portion of your maximum HP and replenishes a portion of your SP,
And Pressure is a Paladin skill which deals a fixed amount of damage it also saps a 40% of the opponent SP at level 5. You cannot block it, dodge it or reduce the damage in any way, except that Wall of Fog makes pressure miss 75% of the time.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 10:57:50 am
Basicaly I think that GTB blocks things that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage.
Priest buffs and healing do not use MATK. So, this is not a good conclusion about the card.
Then what about: GTB blocks attacks that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage PLUS offensive & defensive support skills (Dispell, Soul Burn, Priest Support skills, including Lex Divina. It is blocked by GTB.). I don't know about songs.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 13, 2008, 11:19:25 am
Basicaly I think that GTB blocks things that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage.
Priest buffs and healing do not use MATK. So, this is not a good conclusion about the card.
That was a general rule that applies to offensive skills. Of course we can't say that it's universally correct since there are skills such as dispell and soul burn that don't use MATK or MDEF and they're still blocked.
But that gives a general idea on what GTB block, if you want to I can list all the skills GTB blocks because there isn't a one universal rule to cover all of them. There are basically only certain types of attacks in the game. Melee, ranged, and magic, then support skills Physical support, magical support. I'm guessing that in the code of each skills there's a line that defines on which category they go into. And GTB blocks everything going into the "magic" category. That's the only unviersal rule there is, other then that you can only list the skills it block or create some overly complicated rule.
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GTB blocks attacks that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage PLUS offensive & defensive support skills (Dispell, Soul Burn, Priest Support skills, including Lex Divina. It is blocked by GTB.). I don't know about songs.
As for this, GTB does not block energy coat, any of the BS buffs nor Paladin buffs. GTB doesn't block any skills that are used on your without targeting symbol. Nor does it protect you from status effects and some of them are indeed MDEF based. And songs are not blocked, they're not considered magical.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 11:20:38 am
Then what about: GTB blocks attacks that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage PLUS offensive & defensive support skills (Dispell, Soul Burn, Priest Support skills, including Lex Divina. It is blocked by GTB.). I don't know about songs.
Fail.
I said that is the first post, the card does not block Lex Divina (u can get muted using GTB).
Sometimes I bring up new questions:
Does GTB block Frost Nova, Envenom and Petrify? ... and songs???
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Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Dew on January 13, 2008, 11:26:03 am
Then what about: GTB blocks attacks that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage PLUS offensive & defensive support skills (Dispell, Soul Burn, Priest Support skills, including Lex Divina. It is blocked by GTB.). I don't know about songs.
Fail.
I said that is the first post, the card does not block Lex Divina (u can get muted using GTB).
Sometimes I bring up new questions:
Does GTB block Frost Nova, Envenom and Petrify? ... and songs???
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Mega Fail.
GTB does block lex. There is more than one way to get muted.
GTB blocks FN. Doesn't block envenom, stone curse[It blocks the skill, yes. Not the status itself], and songs. /ok
Edit: Making it easier to read.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: bensei on January 13, 2008, 11:29:33 am
gtb does block the stone curse skill, dew. o.o
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Mirandu on January 13, 2008, 11:33:00 am
I think she wanted to say that it blocks the skill, "yes". But not the status itself.
Oh, and I know that not every buff is blocked, I was referring mostly to Priest skills (didn't know if Magnificat and Angelus work @.@). But your explanation "GTB doesn't block any skills that are used on your without targeting symbol." helps with this. /no1
Then what about: GTB blocks attacks that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage PLUS offensive & defensive support skills (Dispell, Soul Burn, Priest Support skills, including Lex Divina. It is blocked by GTB.). I don't know about songs.
Fail.
I said that is the first post, the card does not block Lex Divina (u can get muted using GTB).
Grrr. I already tested it more than once. And Lex didn't work on GTB users.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 11:33:49 am
Hmm.. ratemyserver.net says that Orc Lord has the Lex Divina skill. But there's another skill, Silence Attack (pretty much same effect, Steel Chonchon has it). But oh well, dunno @.@ At least, Lex Divina doesn't work in PvP against players wearing GTB. Or Ratemyserver.net is wrong and Orc Lord has Silence Attack and not Lex Divina.
And what is the logic if GTB blocks FN but doesnt block Stone Curse, Envenom and others "Status Skills".
One more: does GTB block Estun of Soul Linkers?
Again: GTB doesn't block a status. It only blocks magical skills which enable a status. Like Stone Curse, or Frost Diver, or Frost Nova. These things won't get you SCed or frozen. But you can STILL be frozen or SCed via Mysteltainn, Sasquatch, Pest, and so on.
And Es spells do not work against players. :<
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Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: bensei on January 13, 2008, 11:42:47 am
Use common sense to see what skill is magic and not, god damnit >_>
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Dew on January 13, 2008, 11:45:28 am
Some thigns GTB doesn't block - Magic crasher - Status effects - Gravity field - Soul breaker (It consists of magical and physical part, GTB only block the magical part) - Pressure - Spider web - Frost joker - Throw spirit sphere
Basicaly I think that GTB blocks things that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage.
GTB doesn't block the magical portion of Breaker - it's known as "magic" but it really isn't a magical attack. It's also the reason why Mdef won't help you vs. Breaker either.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 13, 2008, 12:04:49 pm
Some thigns GTB doesn't block - Magic crasher - Status effects - Gravity field - Soul breaker (It consists of magical and physical part, GTB only block the magical part) - Pressure - Spider web - Frost joker - Throw spirit sphere
Basicaly I think that GTB blocks things that use your MATK as damage and MDEF to reduce damage.
GTB doesn't block the magical portion of Breaker - it's known as "magic" but it really isn't a magical attack. It's also the reason why Mdef won't help you vs. Breaker either.
Oh sorry my mistake then ^^;
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 13, 2008, 12:06:19 pm
You all keep trying to make a rule about the effect of GTB card and, actually, the correct is to make a list of skills that are blocked (and that was said before im just repeating, read all the topic).
Hmm.. ratemyserver.net says that Orc Lord has the Lex Divina skill. But there's another skill, Silence Attack (pretty much same effect, Steel Chonchon has it). But oh well, dunno @.@ At least, Lex Divina doesn't work in PvP against players wearing GTB. Or Ratemyserver.net is wrong and Orc Lord has Silence Attack and not Lex Divina.
That makes sense. I got muted by ChonChon and Dracula (or his gang). (Although Lex Divina and Silence Attack are magic spells and both should be blocked.)
So you come in here asking for help... then start pretending you know things you don't. ~____~ If I hadn't sold my HP I could show you ingame.
I didnt ask for help. And who started pretending to know things that dont know? U make laugh. Quit. I dont want flaming here.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: bensei on January 13, 2008, 12:08:55 pm
You are still wrong, what mirandu and others said is right, gtb blocks every spell thats takes its whole dmg out of matk,(so basically every skill you can reduce the dmg with your mdef), and also buffs(blessing etc), and supportive skills(lex aeterna lex divina etc).
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Denia on January 13, 2008, 12:13:29 pm
Not exactly. A silence attack is a physical melee attack that procs Silence. Much like a physical attack that procs blind or stun, thus would not be blocked by GTB.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 13, 2008, 12:14:01 pm
GTB blocks magic skills. However, it does not block status effects. If you run into an SG while wearing a GTB you don't get damaged, however chances are that you will be frozen. If someone uses stone curse against you, you can still be stone cursed.
Any skills that have status effects will cary the statuses over to you even if you do wear GTB. GTB only blocks the damage you receive from magic.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Dew on January 13, 2008, 12:42:53 pm
GTB blocks magic skills. However, it does not block status effects. If you run into an SG while wearing a GTB you don't get damaged, however chances are that you will be frozen. If someone uses stone curse against you, you can still be stone cursed.
Any skills that have status effects will cary the statuses over to you even if you do wear GTB. GTB only blocks the damage you receive from magic.
I've never been frozen by SG while wearing GTB. o-o Or stone cursed by someone while wearing it.
I'm pretty sure GTB blocks the whole magic attack including whatever effects it would normally proc. Just so you don't get confused Henderch, this doesn't mean in blocks statuses always. /ok
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 13, 2008, 01:22:52 pm
GTB blocks magic skills. However, it does not block status effects. If you run into an SG while wearing a GTB you don't get damaged, however chances are that you will be frozen. If someone uses stone curse against you, you can still be stone cursed.
Any skills that have status effects will cary the statuses over to you even if you do wear GTB. GTB only blocks the damage you receive from magic.
I've never been frozen by SG while wearing GTB. o-o Or stone cursed by someone while wearing it.
I'm pretty sure GTB blocks the whole magic attack including whatever effects it would normally proc. Just so you don't get confused Henderch, this doesn't mean in blocks statuses always. /ok
Hmm...You're probably right. I guess I was wrong....Again xD
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: KnockedX_XOut on January 13, 2008, 02:28:53 pm
what is FN?
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Dew on January 13, 2008, 02:33:07 pm
Frost Nova.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: bensei on January 13, 2008, 02:37:22 pm
with gtb the only way you can get status'd is by getting hit by a monster/weapon that proc's a status effects while incliting melee dmg.
However, and status changes caused my supportive/buff/debuff spells wont affect you at all.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Sapphirion on January 14, 2008, 12:56:59 am
GTB blocks all magic spells which requires int not all skills
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Aozora on January 14, 2008, 08:40:44 am
GTB blocks all magic spells which requires int not all skills
The problem here is, how to define magic spells? For example, AD uses INT but it's not blocked. Well of course AD is not a magic spell. But magic crasher? It uses INT, Pressure? Gravity field? etc. There isn't a simple rule you can make about GTB.
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: HENDERCH on January 15, 2008, 02:37:32 am
I still prefer the first list:
Some things GTB doesn't block: - Magic Crasher - Status effects - Gravity Field - Pressure - Spider Web - Frost Joker - Throw Spirit Sphere (omg, and it is a physical attack) - Envenom (the skill Envenom, of the thieves)
If you tested the card before you can edit it later.
(in doubt now if Soulbreaker is a physical attack or if there is a magical part that could be blocked, idk if the damage is lesser when u use GTB card)
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Sapphirion on January 15, 2008, 03:22:42 am
GTB blocks all magic spells which requires int not all skills
The problem here is, how to define magic spells? For example, AD uses INT but it's not blocked. Well of course AD is not a magic spell. But magic crasher? It uses INT, Pressure? Gravity field? etc. There isn't a simple rule you can make about GTB.
well ask a Gm not me i dont use gtb?! /gg
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 24, 2008, 11:21:27 am
SBK pierces GTB. <3
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Sapphirion on April 25, 2008, 12:20:51 am
STOP REVIVING THESE OLD THREAD THIS IS OVER 3 MONTHS OLD......... ITS REALLY IRRITATING >:( >:(
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: gunzlinger on April 25, 2008, 10:55:57 am
Had no idea. /swt
Title: Re: What does GTB block?
Post by: Lucy Furr on April 25, 2008, 10:51:26 pm
think about it this way.....GTB blocks magic/spells....Skills is not the same as Magic.....some skills are not magic, such as soul breaker....and so GTB doesnt block soul breaker....piece of advise, unless ur fightign a wiz or sage, or priest dont use GTB unless the person uses magic from sqi or scrolls.