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Title: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Razer on August 19, 2010, 07:19:34 am

Tried to find non class specific threads for this but didnt find useful data.

How does one solo DG. I tried using a sinx - Its strong vs the ghost type but weak vs the rest. Bio is good vs the Angel type but rather weak vs the brown one. I can pass assumptio - How is it possible for one to solo DG without using a SG/TKM.
Its possible to do the same with Champ but Id need lex for 1 shotting. I want to avoid using TKMs

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: AL on August 19, 2010, 07:58:36 am

will post a guide with correct info later    

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Kane on August 19, 2010, 08:16:15 am

Lord Knight
I was using LK critical built+frenzy+warm wind(fire) fight 3 morrocs except brown one and without warm wind fight brown and angel.
Usually I used Vanberk Mid because the reapedgirl morroc have 316 flee.
My stat(only base):
str=98
agi=1
vit=1
int=1
dex=50+ or the ress of str and luk(I forgot this one but [get 219 hit to fight angel][150 hit for Brown]+concentration[+50 hit]
luk=81(to avoid wide curse 100% from angel and must be wearing valk helm[gryphon card possibly],
           wearing kaho maybe need more luk/vit to avoid wide curse 100%)

About the ress gear i think u know already but here the list:
DTT Nibel
Toa FireArmor,
DL Sleipnir
DevilingGarment
AliceValk
WildValk
Vanberk/WildMid
Kobold DL+meginjard

Note:
About Angel type incarnation,I think you know already but only for other people who dunno.His skill  Darkness GrandCross only can avoid using ED/Bathory armor or GTB maybe(not sure).But you dont need to bring those armor just use Tao Fire because you will know when his tryng to use that skill(he will cast 2 secs).At same time run from getting his skill(3x3 maybe).

If you getting sucking blood from Brown type incarnation,make sure you move 3 or 4 step away from that monster and attack it back asap(spear type weapon have 3 range).Plus,There is critical lock so the monster will stuck there while you hitting it.
Also worked to fight other monster that have shortrange attack.

Just my experience played LK there /heh

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Razer on August 19, 2010, 09:07:49 am

Ok I tested with WS seeing I was suggested WS by Teg ages back. WS actually does good with 10K+ CT . It hurts the 2 important spawns the brown demon and the angel one which drop the garments but it loses out if there is more then one and i also spend around 12k-15k per spawn in CT money. How does one go with SG exactly - I have seen people playing SG but not solo in most cases.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: juggernaut2000 on August 19, 2010, 09:34:54 am

If time is not an issue you can solo them with HW. Takes a little time but needs practically no investment! The angel one is kinda fast walking so need to be careful with her. But the others are no biggie. Won't need anything more than basic dex gear & gtb,GR, bathory. Just run in circles & SG,making sure there is no gap between 2 SGs. 

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Razer on August 19, 2010, 10:14:15 am

How exactly does SG/TKM work with this ?
I see quite a lot of DG drops on sale.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Eruruw on August 19, 2010, 07:22:28 pm

HW is the best, if you're good at avoiding the Valk Incarnations you can make HUGE mobs of all the other monsters and kill 10-20 at a time.

It's very frustrating though because the moment you run into a Valk Incarnation you're pretty much dead unless you teleport.

You won't get any Diabolus Manteaus like this, though.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Muranodo on August 19, 2010, 08:55:08 pm

Quote from: Razer on August 19, 2010, 10:14:15 am

How exactly does SG/TKM work with this ?
I see quite a lot of DG drops on sale.

Post in the SG discussion thread or read backwards from the current page~

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Hard Weapon on August 19, 2010, 09:00:18 pm

Lol, pretty much the same way every SG does in most maps. 

Set Feeling to appropriate location, use 1 Meg and 1 Hell Poodle Accessory.  Use a +10 DTP (drac turt phree) book, kaho (for str and dex), Gryph Mid (for luk), Armor of choice with appropriate card (maybe batho or ED), and appropriate shield with appropriate card amd you're good to go.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Muranodo on August 19, 2010, 09:09:47 pm

Quote from: Hard Weapon on August 19, 2010, 09:00:18 pm

Lol, pretty much the same way every SG does in most maps.  

Set Feeling to appropriate location, use 1 Meg and 1 Hell Poodle Accessory.  Use a +10 DTP (drac turt phree) book, kaho (for str and dex), Gryph Mid (for luk), Armor of choice with appropriate card (maybe batho or ED), and appropriate shield with appropriate card amd you're good to go.

Incorrect.  Hell Poodle is not used.  Kaahi is the healing method.  Could use a Gryph Mid or BK (def) depending.  Armor is Pasana/Batho on swap based off monster skill usage.  Alice Guard/Stone Buckler along with a GTB to swap on typically.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Razer on August 20, 2010, 03:06:04 am

I know the gears - Id like to know which moves are executed and in what fashion ?
Alice Guard ? Are they boss style monsters ?

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Muranodo on August 20, 2010, 09:41:43 am

Quote from: Razer on August 20, 2010, 03:06:04 am

I know the gears - Id like to know which moves are executed and in what fashion ?
Alice Guard ? Are they boss style monsters ?

All the monsters in DG are mini-bosses.  So, they are boss-types.

Basic moves are Comfort of the Sun for a vit defense increase.

And just using warmth / heat as they've always done.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: redhairweasel on August 20, 2010, 10:05:35 am

You can also advertise "Free leech at DG" and invite as many leech'd as you can  :P
That is what I do when I SG there sometime on other server ofc.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 20, 2010, 06:54:35 pm

Armors to be used; Fire, shadow, ghost.
Shields; Alice, GTB
Classes that can solo: Star Gladiator, High Wizard, High Priest [snipers and bios get screwed over when they monsters use Pneuma, its just not worth it.]

Star Gladiators; No healing items other than GJ if needed; Kaahi to heal and a high priest for Bless/Assumptio.  Use GR and GTB against Angels to kill pulse strike's damage and avoid having your Kaahi dispelled.
High Wizards; Can storm gust the Mudmen, Crawlers and Ghosts - avoid angels using quagmire.  They will kill you.
High Priest; Same leveling method as any other map.  You can't kill the angels but you can kill everything else.


And for self leeching and mass-farming, have a High Priest tag along.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Razer on August 21, 2010, 06:01:55 am

Quote from: SanRath on August 20, 2010, 06:54:35 pm

Star Gladiators; No healing items other than GJ if needed; Kaahi to heal and a high priest for Bless/Assumptio.  Use GR and GTB against Angels to kill pulse strike's damage and avoid having your Kaahi dispelled.

Kaahi would be an issue since I can manage eveything else.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Miss All Sunday on August 21, 2010, 12:51:55 pm

I don't find kaahi useful at all. More annoying than its worth. No gtb needed just use alice and swap fire for mag break and bathory for the gc.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Talvi on August 21, 2010, 01:01:16 pm

How do you not get drops on HW o.O

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 21, 2010, 01:30:47 pm

Quote from: Miss All Sunday on August 21, 2010, 12:51:55 pm

I don't find kaahi useful at all. More annoying than its worth. No gtb needed just use alice and swap fire for mag break and bathory for the gc.

What character are you using? If you're using Champion like I remember then Kaahi would be brutal; champs just aren't the best there for killing. :c

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Miss All Sunday on August 21, 2010, 02:26:48 pm

Uh no. I have 2 sgs for DG. Champ was for powerleveling and mass boredom.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Razer on August 21, 2010, 11:42:01 pm

So what do you use to heal ? Slims?

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: DreamerP on August 21, 2010, 11:51:45 pm

I'm pretty sure she uses 1 HP and a Meg /ok

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Miss All Sunday on August 22, 2010, 04:24:35 pm

Yea hp meg and meats as back up. Haven't tried other accessories. I can solo a bit like that but I prefer a hp and full party to get max dmg and surv ivability

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Hard Weapon on August 23, 2010, 08:51:45 am

I don't see why you'd use Kaahi, it's more expensive to waste GJs when you can get yourself a Hell Poodle Necklace or something and use Meat which only costs 41 zenny.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 12:28:42 pm

Quote from: Hard Weapon on August 23, 2010, 08:51:45 am

I don't see why you'd use Kaahi, it's more expensive to waste GJs when you can get yourself a Hell Poodle Necklace or something and use Meat which only costs 41 zenny.

Using 100-200 GJ over the course of 2-3 hours is expensive ?_?
Critical wounds which procs quite often, even encountering a crawler and being hit once usually gives it to you, reduces healing and healing items 60%.  Even an 4100 heal only heals 1640.  Kaahi remains constant 1400 or whichever setting you desire. 
Meats will heal you what, 600 with a hell poodle at the average Star Gladiator vit rate? That'll be reduced to 240 each. 

Your best route is having a High Priest with Safety Wall tag along, and its usually not worth extensive farming without High Priest assist because you risk losing Miracle to a surprise mob.

Like Miss All Sunday said, having party members [even if they're just dead ones] tag along can give you quite the damage boost.  Its like having miracle mode, in miracle mode.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Miss All Sunday on August 23, 2010, 12:52:13 pm

It's just a hassle to have to keep going back to the designated area to kaahi yourself. And using a skill that saps your sp, as a class that requires SP..

Also I'm curious how you use SW. I know SW is the most annoying thing in the world to me at Odins, whether it's on the mob or I get in it by FSK'ing.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Teggit on August 23, 2010, 12:54:20 pm

You just stand in SW next to the monster. . .

Kaahi also lasts half an hour so it's not like you have to go back often.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 01:02:16 pm

Quote from: Miss All Sunday on August 23, 2010, 12:52:13 pm

It's just a hassle to have to keep going back to the designated area to kaahi yourself. And using a skill that saps your sp, as a class that requires SP..

Also I'm curious how you use SW. I know SW is the most annoying thing in the world to me at Odins, whether it's on the mob or I get in it by FSK'ing.

Depends on the situation; if your ally uses FSK in a huge mob then their job is to stay on that monster until the mob is leveled and then they can take out that monster.  Simply SWing on the center of the green bar suffices and can be done no matter how often they FSK you won't miss.  You don't have to kill your whole mob right at once; if there's some out of range of your SW'd area killem after the death threat lowers.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Teggit on August 23, 2010, 01:07:39 pm

Quote from: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 01:02:16 pm

Quote from: Miss All Sunday on August 23, 2010, 12:52:13 pm

It's just a hassle to have to keep going back to the designated area to kaahi yourself. And using a skill that saps your sp, as a class that requires SP..

Also I'm curious how you use SW. I know SW is the most annoying thing in the world to me at Odins, whether it's on the mob or I get in it by FSK'ing.

Depends on the situation; if your ally uses FSK in a huge mob then their job is to stay on that monster until the mob is leveled and then they can take out that monster.  Simply SWing on the center of the green bar suffices and can be done no matter how often they FSK you won't miss.  You don't have to kill your whole mob right at once; if there's some out of range of your SW'd area killem after the death threat lowers.

If the SG FSKs a huge mob and you use saftey wall on the green bar, the SG will eat his own saftey wall with heat. It it best not to FSK at all when going with a HP.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 01:22:24 pm

Quote from: Teggit on August 23, 2010, 01:07:39 pm

Quote from: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 01:02:16 pm

Quote from: Miss All Sunday on August 23, 2010, 12:52:13 pm

It's just a hassle to have to keep going back to the designated area to kaahi yourself. And using a skill that saps your sp, as a class that requires SP..

Also I'm curious how you use SW. I know SW is the most annoying thing in the world to me at Odins, whether it's on the mob or I get in it by FSK'ing.

Depends on the situation; if your ally uses FSK in a huge mob then their job is to stay on that monster until the mob is leveled and then they can take out that monster.  Simply SWing on the center of the green bar suffices and can be done no matter how often they FSK you won't miss.  You don't have to kill your whole mob right at once; if there's some out of range of your SW'd area killem after the death threat lowers.

If the SG FSKs a huge mob and you use saftey wall on the green bar, the SG will eat his own saftey wall with heat. It it best not to FSK at all when going with a HP.

That only hurts you with 3-4 monsters on you, and then you don't even need SW.  When you're in an area and 12 monsters decide to be in the same spot its best to avoid damage because you'll be earning the SP back in strides.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Teggit on August 23, 2010, 01:24:14 pm

12 monsters on the same spot? Well then you'll eat your SW even faster.  ???

Doesn't really make sense.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 01:26:44 pm

Quote from: Teggit on August 23, 2010, 01:24:14 pm

12 monsters on the same spot? Well then you'll eat your SW even faster.  ???

Doesn't really make sense.

SW is completely spammable so thats not really an issue ?_?

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Teggit on August 23, 2010, 01:28:51 pm

I think you are misunderstanding me. 12 monsters on one spot, SG on the same spot due to FSK, SW blocks heat DPS and is promptly eaten, SW also eaten by 12 monsters.

I hope you understand now.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: SanRath on August 23, 2010, 01:31:35 pm

I get what you're saying now P:  As if eating your own SW wasn't fast enough the additional 12 monsters takes out the SW near-instantly.  I need a better example for future reference. :(

Getting hit by Magnum Break helps out immensely in tanking mobs. You don't have to move and the whole mob comes to your SG ally, meanwhile they have a cell to tank in SW with only themselves in it.

Title: Re: Solo-ing in DG
Post by: Miss All Sunday on August 23, 2010, 02:55:01 pm

I was referring to SW as I'm used to it in Odins soloing. As for DG, never used SW. And I guess using kaahi comes down to preference but I have no problem at all not using it.